Good info on toyo R888 tyre pressures!


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This info was passed on to me by a new member on hear! (gcs2244)
So i thought i would put into it's own thread for everyone!:nice:


The R888 has a semi race construction (very stiff) and a race tread compound. The optimum tread temperature range is between 85C and 95C measured using a probe type pyrometer, and ideally a maximum difference across the tread of 9C. The maximum hot pressure we recommend is 40psi. Camber angles up to 5 degrees are permissible but the final setting will depend on tread temperatures. It is advisable to have as much positive castor as practical as castor induces a beneficial camber change during cornering. I recommend that the tyres be put through 2 heat cycles before hard use.


The pressures you use will initially depend on the weight of the car, too little pressure on a heavy car can lead to over deflection of the tyre and subsequent failure.

Below are some basic settings:

VEHICLE WEIGHT COLD PRESSURE HOT PRESSURE
Very Light < 800kg 17 - 22 psi 22 - 29 psi
Light 800kg - 1000kg 20 - 26 psi 24 - 32 psi
Heavy 1000kg - 1400kg 23 - 27 psi 28 - 40 psi
Very Heavy > 1400kg 27 - 35 psi 37 - 40 psi


As a tyre gets hotter the pressure increases, this is due to the moisture in the air. The cold pressure you set to achieve a desired hot pressure will depend on the conditions on the day i.e. ambient and track temperature, wet or dry. If the day/track is cold you will need to start with a higher cold pressure as the tyre will not get as hot therefore the pressure increase will not be so great.
Hot pressures must be balanced side to side. Once the tyres have cooled you will find that you will have a difference in pressure side to side, if you have been racing on a right hand track you will find the offside pressures will usually be higher than the nearside.
 
Good advice from the older racer! Check out the drive by vid on HOT...he rips through that chicane :bow:
 
nice gcs2244, defiantly check my tyre pressure more often now :D
 
Thanks!! So they work with significant lower pressure than street tyres.
I was thinking of having some 888s but i am little worried about their size. Now i have 185-55-14 and toyos come only at 185-60-14 in 14 inch wheels. Apart from looks i am afraid of their having softy sidewalls. Is this possible or the special structure they have don't make them comparable with 185--60-14 street tyres?
 
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James what compound where you running for snetterton. Also what pressures cold? and hot?

I'm on front 34psi cold and rear 26psi cold for road use at them mo
 
thanks for the info !
 
nice info cheers! :nice:

tho not too sure wot u meant by: "It is advisable to have as much positive castor as practical as castor induces a beneficial camber change during cornering."

would u mind explaining this, excuse my lack of knowledge :secret:
 
James what compound where you running for snetterton. Also what pressures cold? and hot?

I'm on front 34psi cold and rear 26psi cold for road use at them mo

I was running soft compound R888 mate, as they were bought just for the track!:nice:
I started the day with mine set at 30psi "COLD" all round & played about with them for the first few time's out, but i ended up finding them best at 30psi when "HOT" & i was amazed by the levels of grip that they gave!

I will deffo be using this setup agen!:nice:

thanks for the info !

Cheers happy to help as always!:nice:

nice info cheers! :nice:

tho not too sure wot u meant by: "It is advisable to have as much positive castor as practical as castor induces a beneficial camber change during cornering."

would u mind explaining this, excuse my lack of knowledge :secret:

I was passed on this info by someone else mate, but i have just had a read up about it & found this!

Caster angle is the number of degrees that a line, drawn through the center of the upper and lower ball joints (or strut and lower ball joint) and viewed from the side, can be tilted forward or backward. Positive caster means that the top of the upper ball joint (or strut) is tilted toward the rear of the vehicle, and negative caster means that it is tilted toward the front. A vehicle with a slightly positive caster setting will have its lower ball joint pivot slightly ahead of the tire's center. This will assist the directional stability of the vehicle by causing a drag at the bottom center of the wheel when it turns, thereby resisting the turn and tending to hold the wheel steady in whatever direction the vehicle is pointed. A vehicle with too much (positive) caster will be hard to steer and shimmy at low speeds. A vehicle with insufficient (negative) caster may tend to be unstable at high speeds and may respond erratically when the brakes are applied.

Hope this helps!:secret:
 
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Thanks dude i think for the road then i will try a set up of 32 all round and track i will try those temps probably 30psi cold for the ring.

Cheers for that James!
 
Thanks dude i think for the road then i will try a set up of 32 all round and track i will try those temps probably 30psi cold for the ring.

Cheers for that James!


40 hot works perfect at the ring, anything less and the car feels horrible :nice:
 
Interesting whats that roughly cold? 36 all round?

no idea mate, we just set them to about 28 cold went out and felt horrible so went over to teh garage and pumped em up to 40 psi when tehy were hot and felt fine so left them like that all weekend, i woudl prob start with 32 cold all round and go from tehre man :nice:
 
no idea mate, we just set them to about 28 cold went out and felt horrible so went over to teh garage and pumped em up to 40 psi when tehy were hot and felt fine so left them like that all weekend, i woudl prob start with 32 cold all round and go from tehre man :nice:

Nice one cheers mate. Thanks for your help. :nice:
 
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