How do you feel now post Brexit?


I find it strange that every single constituency in Scotland voted to stay? Despite severe rules on your fishing rights in your own waters?
Either the Scottish have it better than the rest of the uk (thus don't feel the need to leave) or somethings up?
I'm not sure leaving the UK is too smart for Scotland. when the oils going cheap Scotland is carried by the rest of the UK and you guys take more than you give. Atleast that's the impression we are given down here on the last Scottish independence referendum.
 
jesse888 said:
I find it strange that every single constituency in Scotland voted to stay? Despite severe rules on your fishing rights in your own waters?
Either the Scottish have it better than the rest of the uk (thus don't feel the need to leave) or somethings up?
I'm not sure leaving the UK is too smart for Scotland. when the oils going cheap Scotland is carried by the rest of the UK and you guys take more than you give. Atleast that's the impression we are given down here on the last Scottish independence referendum.
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I think Ally summed the situation up fairly well on the previous page,

I'd of thought it safe to say Scotland needs backing from the uk or if they get their independence the eu,

I'd of also thought The way the Eu is heading with other countries wanting referendums, and others in severe financial crisis staying in the uk may be their best option, but it seems everyone's all wound up and can't see the wood through the trees, or am I wrong or missing something?

Cornwall had it quite good in the Eu and the area has had a lot of funding, yet as far as I'm aware a majority of us voted leave.
 
jesse888 said:
I find it strange that every single constituency in Scotland voted to stay? Despite severe rules on your fishing rights in your own waters?
Either the Scottish have it better than the rest of the uk (thus don't feel the need to leave) or somethings up?
I'm not sure leaving the UK is too smart for Scotland. when the oils going cheap Scotland is carried by the rest of the UK and you guys take more than you give. Atleast that's the impression we are given down here on the last Scottish independence referendum.
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I know that from my research and from most of my friends that we just couldn't see the advantage of leaving over staying. In a way, the independence referendum showed that everything you get promised when you leave was rubbish, better the devil you know and all that.

I completely agree that if Scotland vote independence through this time (lets be honest, there will be another referendum, Sturgeon has already started putting this in motion) we're screwed. We don't have the resources to self sustain, it was true in the last referendum and unless something massively changes, it'll be true next time...

I might be wrong but a lot of the attitude up here is a "F*** you England" story and yesterday just exaggerated it. A whole country had and opinion and it got COMPLETELY ignored. Loads of people I know will vote to spite England if another referendum occurs because of this.

Personally I think the whole EU referendum was a way of our government shifting the blame onto someone else when they've done a crap job.
 
I think the majority of the world has a "**** you england" attitude lol
I can definitely see why the Scots would be pissed. Complete white wash for remain and the decision has gone the other way. Unfortunately the majority of the uk is England.
Interesting how it was the rural areas that voted out.
 
Haha lets not got there :p

Yeah I'm not sure how it can be fixed/if it can be fixed but its pretty clear that a lot of people feel like Scotland feel like our opinion doesn't count at all.

The rural areas surprised me, I know that the farming communities in Northern Ireland were saying that they'd be screwed if we leave, not sure how that compares to the rural areas in England. The age divide is pretty mental too, I see it as a bit selfish personally but I think thats due to more old fashioned mentalities.
 
R1PPU said:
You do realise the only reason he's gotten where he is is due to the money he has?

If he wins the presidential elections, the world truly has gone to ****.



Scotland voted to stay a part of the UK, however one of the things that was used to encourage that was that it would maintain a relationship with the EU being a part of the UK. Now that the UK have left the EU, this is enough leverage for another Scottish referendum and going by the reaction up here, it seems almost certain that Scotland would vote to leave.
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Of course he is there cos of his money, his money, not corporations and big businesses and lobbyists all given money to help them make there way in the world , like hillary Clinton and all before, when you have people funding elections do you think they do it for nothing ?
Money in politics funded by corporations is bad ,
Who is really in control?
Man I hope Scotland gets there independence but the eu cares zero about Scotland, eu is undemocratic and needs to cut back on control, its a disaster waiting to happen
The eu have taken my country and are dictating every aspect of our lives, they are hell bent on control of everyone and everything.
 
R1PPU said:
Haha lets not got there :p

Yeah I'm not sure how it can be fixed/if it can be fixed but its pretty clear that a lot of people feel like Scotland feel like our opinion doesn't count at all.

The rural areas surprised me, I know that the farming communities in Northern Ireland were saying that they'd be screwed if we leave, not sure how that compares to the rural areas in England. The age divide is pretty mental too, I see it as a bit selfish personally but I think thats due to more old fashioned mentalities.
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I think the older generation are just stronger/more gritty than we are. They genuinely "keep calm and carry on".
I guess we'd be the same if we survived 5 straight weeks of German bombings in ww2. Kind of puts **** into perspective!
 
First I must say I'm a EU immigrant and as such I'm inherently biased, so take what say with a pinch of salt if you like. I woke up this morning and I can tell you I haven't been this sad for a long time, I have lived in the UK for 10 years, I call it my home and this morning I've realised I'm really not welcome, not a great feeling as you can probably imagine. Fortunately I live in Scotland, and while I did consider moving to England for work etc that is now completely off the table, I really don't want to live somewhere where people don't want me. I can completely understand the frustration of the many Brits who despite working hard can't get on the property ladder, and for wanting a change. I truly believe in democracy and I respect the vote, regardless of how I feel about it. I especially applaud to those who voted for leave and who at the same time realise that very hard times lie ahead, and I feel sorry for those who hoped that the leave vote would sort things out overnight, because that's not going to happen, it will get a lot worse before it gets better. The same is of course true for the Scottish referendum, I did vote Yes in 2014 knowing full well that the SNP promises about great wealth for the people of Scotland were a load of bollocks. There is only one reason to vote for independence, being it from the EU or from the rest of the U.K. - and that is the desire for self governance. I find it funny that you guys can't see why Scotland would want independence when the reasons are exactly the same why you wanted independence from the EU. It has nothing to do with economics, it is simply the fact that Scotland practically always votes differently from the rest of the U.K., but because of the small population it's opinion is largely ignored, the EU referendum is a prime example. Almost all of my friends who voted No in 2014 would vote Yes today, this might drop over the next few days I expect as the emotions calm down a bit. No matter how you voted, enjoy the weekend, I'll try my best to do so anyway :)
 
Very true mate , also they say you get wiser as you age !
 
oifovo said:
First I must say I'm a EU immigrant and as such I'm inherently biased, so take what say with a pinch of salt if you like. I woke up this morning and I can tell you I haven't been this sad for a long time, I have lived in the UK for 10 years, I call it my home and this morning I've realised I'm really not welcome, not a great feeling as you can probably imagine. Fortunately I live in Scotland, and while I did consider moving to England for work etc that is now completely off the table, I really don't want to live somewhere where people don't want me. I can completely understand the frustration of the many Brits who despite working hard can't get on the property ladder, and for wanting a change. I truly believe in democracy and I respect the vote, regardless of how I feel about it. I especially applaud to those who voted for leave and who at the same time realise that very hard times lie ahead, and I feel sorry for those who hoped that the leave vote would sort things out overnight, because that's not going to happen, it will get a lot worse before it gets better. The same is of course true for the Scottish referendum, I did vote Yes in 2014 knowing full well that the SNP promises about great wealth for the people of Scotland were a load of bollocks. There is only one reason to vote for independence, being it from the EU or from the rest of the U.K. - and that is the desire for self governance. I find it funny that you guys can't see why Scotland would want independence when the reasons are exactly the same why you wanted independence from the EU. It has nothing to do with economics, it is simply the fact that Scotland practically always votes differently from the rest of the U.K., but because of the small population it's opinion is largely ignored, the EU referendum is a prime example. Almost all of my friends who voted No in 2014 would vote Yes today, this might drop over the next few days I expect as the emotions calm down a bit. No matter how you voted, enjoy the weekend, I'll try my best to do so anyway :)
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Not sure that people feel you are not welcomed ,
They voted out of a bureaucratic eu , you do know people from all over the world have been coming to UK well before the eu even existed ?
And will still come welcomed as before, but just in another way .
 
@oifovo
I'm sure the majority of leave votes weren't about immigration, I've heard this afew times from migrants today and your as welcome as you've always been. The peoples opinions haven't changed in one day, your perception of their opinions has....
Although I'd prefer if we had a system much like Australias I'm happy to take honest, working people from all over the world and share this country with them. It's the rapists, pedophiles and murderers that you hear about in the media coming over here.(of which we have no control due to EU laws) Imo this country has a very bad paedophile problem as it is without adding more to it.
Imo the EU is going nowhere. Having to gain approval from all members(what 27?) To get any reform or laws passed means that if your not happy with your deal in the EU, you got to leave because negotiations are pointless.
 
NZRacerX said:
On the positive side, your instant exchange rate crash is awesome for those of us in different locations around the world who regularly buy car bits from the UK. Demon-Tweeks and RallyNuts, prepare yourself for my credit card!
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That's just big banks pulling there money, age old tactic,
They do that around the world,
Rockefeller and Co, playing games.
 
NZRacerX said:
On the positive side, your instant exchange rate crash is awesome for those of us in different locations around the world who regularly buy car bits from the UK. Demon-Tweeks and RallyNuts, prepare yourself for my credit card!
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I'd be quick. It's only like a dollar or 2 lower than it was in February.
 
You are all doomed! It's the apocalypse lol .
You will be the hub of trade,
2.5 billion emerging market customers, vs 500 million that's going down hill ,
Which is best ?
 
A very sad day for the UK indeed. I think it is very hard to know what is going to happen, but I believe the people who will be affected by this most are the poorer people in the country, which is sad because they were the majority of people who voted out.

Fortunately some of the leave campaign's arguments are starting to come to light so that the rest of the country can see that not a lot will come of leaving the EU. Firstly the quoted £350 million (which we all know was a lie from the start of the campaign, although they continued with this figure right up until the end) will not go towards helping the poorer areas of the country like it used to, nor will it go to the NHS (like promised). This money is now in the hands of the conservative party, even worse, possibly the hands of Boris Johnson who is far more right wing than Cameron. The money will go unnoticed by the majority of people in the UK. What I don't understand is why the people who hate the conservative party the most, who accuse them of lining their own pockets and only helping their rich banker friends, now think that the conservatives are going to fairly share out all this money that we are going to get back.

Secondly, immigration will hardly change. For those of you who don't know, we already have a points based system, like many other countries, determining who we want and don't want from all other countries outside of the EU. This system, like many other systems around the world, fails. People come here from all over the world, so if we have little control over our borders from people outside of the EU, do you really think we will "take control" of our borders from people inside the EU? No. And once again the leave campaign is starting to uncover that actually they will not have much control. I for one am happy for anyone to come here, work, and seek a better life.

Finally this whole "Taking back control" argument. We already have control, we already make the vast majority of our laws and decisions. When a decision couldn't be made, then it would go to the European parliament. This was about 7% of decisions, and I think most people forgot that the UK, was one of the three big players in the EU. So when 7% of decisions were made in Brussels, it wasn't the EU deciding it for us, it was us, the UK, deciding alongside the rest of the EU. But I'm sure we will notice the huge difference taking back control of that 7% will make.

Anyway what's done is done now. It's time to get on with it. Fortunately for me I won't be affected, but I am still saddened that we have turned our backs on the EU, and that a lot of people will be expecting big change when really most of it will stay the same.
 
The eu have hammered European countries with debt and laws ,and hampered trade,
You only have to look at most of the European countries now , they are a sheel of what they used to be ,
Unfortunately they over stepped what it was all about in
The first place,
Making countries bankrupt to get control is no way to go about helping people,
Just shows, cos lots of other countries want out also
So they all can't be wrong,
It's a big shock alright, but if you said nothing is going to change, then why be in it ?
Just look at other European countries more bailouts,
More debt, more suffering,
Just nip it in the bud now and let it play it's course,
 
A cold cold pint sounds good! I'm just raging that the Euros have dropped like fuk as I'm going to the Oktoberfest this year and was banking on getting decent rates on a remain vote!

Besides my ignorant/selfish motive, I still don't think having an independent Scotland will resolve our problems. Again, the EU couldn't give a toss about us and other countries appear they want to follow UK's exit, which would weaken the EU. However I cannot argue the fact that how England & Wales have screwed us over for a leave decision. I see both sides of the argument, but I went for the safer option (just like a no vote for an independent Scotland). If Westminister knock back the EU leave, then great! Or if they knock back a second Scottish independence referendum and want us to ride out this **** then so be it - and I think this would be better for us as a whole, as much as it would hurt us. The first Scottish referendum was a good hype as most of the folk were more about passion than using their heads. I don't wanan get into this too much but.. We'd be in massive debt! 'We have oil...' bla bla, look at Russia! Mental to think that.

Apparently a lot of people didn't vote as it would be a no brainer to remain...

My verdict/ opinion: The decision is to leave the European Union. We, as Scotland decided to be part of the UK. The UK as a whole decided to leave. And as Joshua said, we just have to get on with it - it will defo come across as unfair to most, especially up here. However I'm intrigued to see how everything pans out.
 
I'd get your euros now, I have a feeling the exchange rate could get a lot worse over the next few weeks.

I'd also rather have your scottish government than our shower of sh!te, I don't have a massive amount of faith for Nicola Sturgeon, but at least her government is coherent. While Boris and co bumble about we look pathetic to the wider world and our position and currency just continues to weaken.

I think the leave vote COULD have been good for the UK, providing we had a strong decisive government to lead it. What we actually have is a bunch of muppets playing hot-potato with the responsibility of running the country, and that is probably the worst way to leave the EU.
 
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