K20A engine into civic 1.4i


TnBwoY

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hi there guys, just want to say that i am a newbie here just signed up, im looking to buy a civic 1.4i hatchback 97-01 and engine plant the engine to a K20A engine taken from the EP3 civic type R. i was just wondering if any else on this forum has done something like this to there civic. due to being young, i can't afford to get myself insured on a type R unforunately :( .
 
though mate. I haven't done any of this but I've read about a guy that has done the swap on a crx. Hasport provide custom mounts just for this swap but you have to be careful what to order as many mounts are for lefthand drive cars. will be fun to drive, but when you do the swap you will have to register the new engine right lol?
 
lol, not sure if i will register it, im asking this as i seen a picture of it in the max power mag and it looks great, im pretty sure if this does work out for me, then surely it will be faster than the ek9, also i am goin to turbo it as my bro is upgrading his subaru turbo and giving the old one to me :p. any pictures of the engine mate?
 
Hey,

When you want to do a K-swap into a EK chassis, my best advice is to do some serieus research, research and more research.
You 've got to know more or less what you're starting with. I don't want to scare you, but a K-swap is not one of the easiest swaps to do.

You must count on a budget from around 7000 € for all the swap parts (engine and gearbox included).
I'll give you a quick list:

- K20 engine + gearbox + engine wiring loom + ECU
- swap axles
- engine mount kit (Hasport, Hybrid racing,...)
- conversion wiring harness
- best is to go for a fully programmable ECU --> hondata K-PRO
- swap header
- Karcepts shifter box mounting kit
- RSX shifter + shifter cables
- after market fuel rail
- fuel pressure regulator
- EP3 radiator + custom made radiator hoses
- slim fan
- custom made fuel lines
- custom clutch line
- custom power steering lines (if retaining PS)

All these parts are absolutely necessary to do the swap. You see that there is quite a lot of work involved.

Then again, if you are going for +200 Bhp in a EK chassis, I would highly recommend to upgrade your brakes and suspension too.

If you want some very good info (and TONS of it), you should definitely check out http://www.k20a.org

The K-swap is very fun to do man, you should definitely go for it !!
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i no a guy that has put a k20a into a 1.4 civic it cost him alot of money bout 6k in total but he had alot of hassle sourcin the parts he needed an its not an easy swap....but is good if its done rite.
 
hey switch9, thanks for the advise :nice:, i just wanted to know is the civic 1.4i and the civic ek has the same chassis, my bro owns a garage and that so he should know his way around the engine as he has done engine plants in the past himself. any pictures of your mates civic would be appriciated m8 :)
 
Hey,

With civic EK chassis, i mean the civic model 96-00.

Sourcing the parts nowadays shouldn't be too hard. There's ton's of stuff that can be found on Ebay (do a search on K20 swap or something like that).
Like the swap header, swap axles, engine mounts, conversion wiring looms, fuel rails, fuel pressure regulators,...
And with the cheap dollar nowadays (compared to the Euro that is :) ) you can do some good deals :nice:

When you swap the K into a 96-00 civic, it's best to buy a Karcepts mounting kit for the RSX shifter and cables (which you can find on junkyards). With that kit, you can install the RSX shifter box nicely under the center (handbrake) console, so that everything looks OEM in your interior)

for the engine mounts fo a 96-00 civic, you have 2 options:
The EKK1 kit and the EKK2 kit.
The EKK1 kit is the "old" kit, for this one you don't need extra parts.
The EKK2 kit is the "newer" kit, and this one requires you to get a subframe, lower control arms, and steering house of the civic EG chassis (92-95).
With the EKK2 mounts, the K20 engine will be placed a little more to the back of the engine bay, and thus is better placed for wheigt balance. Also the ground clearance of the oil pan is better with the EKK2 kit.

K20 engine's can be found easier and easier these days. The question is if you want to go for a european K20A2 engine (200 BHP and has immobiliser) from the civic Type-R EP3, or a JDM K20A engine (220 Bhp, and has NO immobiliser) from the JDM civic Type-R EP3 or the JDM integra DC5.
Again, a lot of engines can be found on Ebay, but then you don't quite know what you are buying, and there are a few scammers on Ebay too.
I don't know where you are from, but you can always check for Honda junkyards in your country.

When you go for the JDM engine that has an ECU without immobiliser, your engine will actually work without any "tuning". But it is much better to go for a fully programmable K-PRO ECU from Hondata. That way you can really finetune the engine, and it wil work much better with the after market parts.
When you want a K-PRO ECU, you have to send the original ECU to Hondata, and then they add some microchips to it, and tweak it a little bit, so it can be programmed afterwards (count on +/- 1000 $ for the K-PRO)

A lot of good pictures of the swap process can be found here (this guy also did a auto to manual swap):
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7176

If you want to go for the swap, I suggest you read a lot on the K20a.org forum, to get an idea of the whole process. I don't recommend to just start doing it, because I think you might get a little frustrated, because you don't quite know how to do things.
Make a list with all the parts you're going to buy and WHERE you are going to buy them, and then you can get a good idea of the price you are going to have to pay. (This way you don't run into any surprices)

Good luck with the swap man !! And let us know your progress here !!
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