MidDevelopments D16y8 Turbo Build.


Just a couple more taken with the Nikon.

Radiator, Shroud, and Fan -

















Turbo in situ -













We are still trying to get round to working on the intercooler pipework but we have been really busy.

Updates to follow soon :)

Ben
 
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Thanks Lee. Really want to get it finished now but there is always something else to do. We are also soon to be building these d16's ready to sell on at a reasonable price, do you think many people would be interested? Really good alternative to going N/A B or K at a competitive price.

Ben
 
You know what I'd love one , I'd easily give up my sir for one , I had the d16y8 and for a single slammer, she was lots of fun and never let me down, very strong little engine that can take lots of abuse, man keep us posted sound very interesting what you are doing, and I'd say in my opinion that engine boosted is better then a k swap if done right ,and reliable, you can trial me if you like lol , best of luck with your venture, looking forward to more updates
 
Well that's good to know :)

We all know how good the B series are either in N/A or forced induction and having come from my ek9 with the B18c it is hard to think about running a D series BUT having said that the amount it has cost us to build the D series compared to what it would of cost to build a B series is unreal. I know lots of people run stock b16/b18c4 with forced induction but that was just not an option for us, we really didnt want to risk the reliability factor although most the B series at 300bhp seem to hold up OK.

It definitely is a relaible engine if treated with respect just like any other engine really. Another thing to consider is the gearbox, the weak point seems to be the differentials. I wanted to build a box from the get go but we thought we would try a stock box to see how it holds up with 300bhp and to be fair wasnt too bad but could of done with at least a rebuild at minimum but now we have got an oem Honda box with LSD so we will so how this holds up, this still wasnt my choice i just want to build the box so its super strong! In my opinion and perfect world my box would be as follows.

M factory 1.5/2 way plated differential
New OEM synchros
New OEM bearings
New OEM seals
Cryogenic treatment of gearset
Dual Stage Shot Peening
ISF (Isotropic Superfinishing) of complete Gearset and selector components

This is what we plan on doing in the near future. The box would be super strong and would last with 400bhp EASY in my opinion no matter how much abuse was thrown at it.

If you are seriously interested in having one i am sure we could come to some sort of agreement on the build considering it would be our first one sold publicly.

Thanks again Lee, means a lot to us.

Ben
 
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Ben that sounds super cool , I'd love to go down that road but I'm just not in the position this side of Xmas ,and I'm sure the quicker for you the better as I'm sure it would help with your reputation in this application, I won't lead you astray ,as it would be summer before I could take you up on that generous offer,
But I sure will be here in the meantime waiting on your updates,
You seem to have the passion and the know how for what you are doing , which in turn gives customers alot of confidence in yourselfs ,
For that you have my respect and attention.
Kind regards Lee.
 
The.Sho-Dan said:
Some thought has gone into this rather than just throw together a cheapo kit
good build :)
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Definitely well put together and a clear plan in place for were this is going.
For me, just myself , I think 280bhp is more than enough for my driving and our roads. also it would be very reliable at that , for a daily driver. ;)
 
Leej8 said:
Ben that sounds super cool , I'd love to go down that road but I'm just not in the position this side of Xmas ,and I'm sure the quicker for you the better as I'm sure it would help with your reputation in this application, I won't lead you astray ,as it would be summer before I could take you up on that generous offer,
But I sure will be here in the meantime waiting on your updates,
You seem to have the passion and the know how for what you are doing , which in turn gives customers alot of confidence in yourselfs ,
For that you have my respect and attention.
Kind regards Lee.
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No problem Lee, was just an option if you were thinking of going down that route. Let me know if you would be interested at a later date, I'm not going anywhere far and will always be about on here so just drop me a PM :)
To be honest Lee I love cars, I love engines, and I love how they work, people take cars for granted as they just buy them use them and eventually abuse them. When you look at the bigger picture and see what has actually been achieved it really is amazing, no one ever thinks of the thought processes that go into creating the engine and chassis as a full package.

And now although I don't really ''own'' a Honda they really are still my favourite cars, they are just a joy to drive and work on, much MUCH better than the S3 and MUCH more reliable than the Evo, I would have another Honda any day! I am looking at Dc2's at the moment as I have never owned one and would be a happy medium as a daily instead of the S3 and also considering selling the Evo and getting either another Ek9 or another Crx as a weekend/track toy.

The.Sho-Dan - Thanks, better to think before following what others tell you to do I think :)

tico-ek9 - Thanks! nice to see people are enjoying what we are doing.

Anyway back on topic and updates with the D16 build :)

I was doing a little math earlier to see how much had been spent so far on this build, when I go to £6800 I stopped thinking about it! But this can obviously be done much cheaper as the headwork isn't necessary and there are plenty of cheaper turbos, radiators, intercoolers, oil coolers, ecu's out there.

We have now made progress on the intercooler piping, our original intentions were to move the radiator over towards the manifold about 2 inches so that we would have enough room to get the cold side intercooler pipework through there and directly up to a 90 bend and straight into the throttle body. BUT now that the engine is in and we have the manifold on and because of how deep the Mishimoto Radiator is it would of been impossible to do that. We have decided on the usual route of going around and under the chassis leg, not ideal but it will work, maybe a space framed front end next year to give us more room to do what we originally wanted.....

We have sussed the hot side and all we need to do is add about 5 inches of 2'' pipe onto what you can see in the pictures and that will be done :)

Here is what we pretty much started with.




And here is the cold side tacked together.







And this is the hot side.




We should have the intercooler pipework finished off this weekend then its onto the next thing, wiring!

Thanks for looking

Ben
 
Not too much at the moment Lee, were so busy but its good :)

Intercooler pipes are now complete and we have made a bracket off the gearbox so that its stable, and now we have the task of wrapping it all in Relect-A-Gold tape. Making it pretty isnt going to be easy but we will do our best but function is priority.

Other than that we have been trying to decide on what brakes to go for, i wanted to make a custom setup using megane 225 brembo calipers with 282mm or 300mm discs but Shezzy wanted to keep it a bit more simple and to be fair we think that with a rear disc conversion and some 282s up front with some decent discs and carbone lorraine rc5 pads we might be ok especially with it being so light.

Any opinions would be greatly appreciated though :)

Thanks

Ben
 
That's brilliant Ben , I think you have function and form in the bag! It will not only look the part, but perform too!
Ben I'm far to much a noob when it comes to turbo applications to form much of an opinion,
Much less even try and questions what you do,
Because you and your crew seem to know exactly
How to build a great honda turbo, and use the abundance of the d16y8s and show it's not all about the b or k series!
I love what you are doing, d series the underdog sticking it to the big compression builds
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Good work mate, nice to see a d-series build for a change the d16's do handle boost well. :nice:
 
Hi Lee,

Thanks dude, aslong as we can keep under bonnet temps cool were not too fussed about the looks but we will see how it turns out.
Thanks Lee comments like that make everything we do worth while, its nice to know that you have faith in what we are doing and i cant wait until its done, were not far off now :)

Thanks joe, yeah its nice to be a bit different :) yeah they really do like the boost. Were just hoping it doesnt drop off boost between gear changes! Just a waiting game now.

Coilovers have been ordered. MeisterR zetaR, i had these on my ek9 and they were an amazing bit of kit and could not fault them in anyway and they totally transformed the characteristics of the handling.

Mocal oil cooler has also been temp fitted to where we think were going to mount it, just need work out a route for some ducting for some cool air.

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What do you think?

And as you can see we have a tiny washer bottle in the back ground too.

And just a quick picture of a car we had in at work, by day im a transport planner and we do daily deliveries to and from holland and we have 3 trailers a week that go to and from spain and portugal and we had this little beauty come in on one of the trailers. Not sure exactly what it is but i know its running a pinto engine. Whoever has built it has done ana amazing job! Sooo clean!
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Thanks

Ben
 
That little banana!! And with a pinto :drive:I'd say that would be a blast to drive.

Ben obviously your a very busy man ,and to find the time also to build a amazing car and be kind enough to post here with us is brilliant,
Car is coming on great ,I'd say you have you temps under wraps! Depending how much boost your going to run ,
But iv a feeling it's going to be BIG! LOL
Keep up the great work and looking forward to your next update . All the best lee
 
Hi Guys,

Its been a while but we have had a lot on lately. We have managed to get a a little bit more done on the car over that time though including designing and building the catch can and this just needs paint and we are waiting for the filters and then its ready to go on. We have stripped the 282's down cleaned everything up and repainted the calipers. The front hubs now have new wheel bearings and bottom ball joints. The coilovers also arrived :) we are just waiting on the base map to be sent over so we can upload it ready to start it up and get it running.

To be fair theres not a lot left to do. We need to make a new downpipe fit the wastegate and reroute the dump pipe back into the downpipe. We were going to have a screamer pipe again but we may encounter problems with noise levels at track so decided against it. Some people so there is a power loss from rerouting it back into the downpipe but even if there was it would be very minimal as long as the dump pipe is situated in the correct place on the dow pipe so it flows smoothly everything will be good :)

Ive not got many pictures at the moment but when i get chance i will take my camera and get some decent ones :)

Here are some of the catch can from my phone though.
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Thanks for looking

Ben
 
Wow love this build, I'm looking into turbo'ing a Honda Logo I picked up at the weekend. I want to go with a standard d16 and a simple reliable turbo set up not big figures because the cars so light and will be a daily. Did you have any sort of problems with the eBay stuff?
 
Great news Ben ! Catch can is mega, It Definitely be able to hold pressure! Lol
Good luck with the tune and hope you make the power goal ,
Really looking forward to this Been put through its paces.
All the best lee
 
Lee91 - Thanks, wow sounds like a good idea! Would love to build a logo. No problems what so ever with the power we were running the only thing that bugged me was because d16s dont like to rev to high and we were only revving to 7200rpm it dropped slightly out of boost on gear changes with t3/t4 so transient response wasnt the best but still good fun and very quick!

Leej8 - Yeah we are really happy with the catch can and it sits perfectly onto the battery tray. Cant wait for the map but still a few things left to do first. Thanks again.

We have managed to tick a few things off just before christmas. The cold side intake pipe is now wrapped in reflect a gold and the an fittings and braided lines have been measured up cut and fitted for the catch can. Wastegate is now bolted up. Next up is downpipe and dump pipe. Will get some more pictures when i get down there next.

Thanks

Ben
 
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