Oh god why


Am I the only one who is a little bit worried by the fact you've just admitted to being unable to regain control of a car at 15mph and then are talking about fitting a 200bhp+ engine?

My previous comment was aimed at you bud. You musta missed I said I went through a diesel spill.
 
Crazy idea, but why not book some track sessions or a skid pan to learn how to recover from the back end stepping out.

I'd expect you'd probably bankrupt yourself trying to make up for lack of experience by installing shiny parts to a civic.

Yep I would definitely benefit :) already got some booked for april 6th. Not a crazy idea at all bud :nice:
 
You thought about installing coilovers on that bad boy?

One of the best mods I did to my 1.4
 
AD08 will be **** on the road if its wet. No point going for them unless its a dry day only car.

You say you want to reduce roll, go for ARB's.

Is it a facelift or prefacelift EJ9? If its a prefacelft, you wont have a front ARB so get the front lower control arms that accept droplinks (any EK shape apart from prefacelift EJ9). Then I'd get a ARB from a VTi (same as the EK9, 26mm in diameter) and fit that.

For the rear, you have two options, VTi rear ARB (15mm) or EK9 (think its 21/22mm). VTi one will bolt straight up. EK9 needs a subframe brace to stop it from tearing.

While you're messing around with suspension, rebush the lot. Its the best thing that you can do to your 14 year old (at least) EJ9.

I wouldn't bother with camber arms for now. Unless you plan on going stupidly low, you dont really need to adjust it. My car's pretty low, and on the standard arms I have about -2.5 at the rear and -1.5 at the front iirc.

Ignore what the internet tells you that you need, and go and drive the car and decide from there. Too many people out there saying you need to do this that and the other when it's complete bullshit. Also learn the car before chucking loads of parts at it.

I've done all the stuff thats listed above, and it works for me. Just find what works for you :nice:
 
I've driven ad08's in the rain both on road and track in an s2000.
I really don't know where all this "they are poor in the rain" comes from tbh.
Op wanted to upgrade the handling of his car prior to engine swap.
Obviously driving the car is the best thing to do but you'll reach the limit of a stock ej9 fairly quickly.
 
I use ad08's on my daily. No problem in the wet as long as you know how to evaluate the conditions you are in... If you can't you shouldn't be driving.
 
I've driven ad08's in the rain both on road and track in an s2000.
I really don't know where all this "they are poor in the rain" comes from tbh.
Op wanted to upgrade the handling of his car prior to engine swap.
Obviously driving the car is the best thing to do but you'll reach the limit of a stock ej9 fairly quickly.

Of course, a summer/track tyre will be amazing in the wet, right?

Yeah you'll reach the limit of a stock EJ9 fairly quickly, but knowing where/how to improve it in the most effective way is where people start talking bullshit.

I use ad08's on my daily. No problem in the wet as long as you know how to evaluate the conditions you are in... If you can't you shouldn't be driving.

I 100% agree with that, maybe I should've been clearer an explained it like you have. I run Spec 2's and tbh they're pretty crap in the wet compared to other tyres out there eg Uniroyals. But like you say its about evaluating your conditions. However, it makes me laugh how people think that having track tyres makes your car handle much better in all weathers.

AD08's will not be as good in the wet weathers as other fast road tires, thats what I was trying to put across (badly) :nice:
 
Want to reduce roll.... fit a strut brace.

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No.

Springs. Dampers. ARBs. Tyres. Forget the rest of the junk.
 
Rippu - you ever used ad08's? Speculating that they are **** in the wet just because it's a performance tyre is stupid. My own experience with them in the rain in a tail happy car is enough to know you haven't used them before.
R888's are fine in the rain. Standing water they are **** but wet road they are fine.

All the parts I mentioned I have experience with on my own cars, so I feel I'm in a decent position to tell him which parts are best used and in which order they should be if he's tight on budget.
He wants ultimate handling. You won't get that without the parts I mentioned fact. Dampers and arbs will get you so far, then you need camber and the rest of it.
 
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My previous comment was aimed at you bud. You musta missed I said I went through a diesel spill.

No I got that. But you also said that once you got grip back it threw you off in the other direction, which is what happens when you don't wind the lock off early enough. Not taking a dig at your driving because at the end of the day it caught you unaware, personally I would just put it down as one of those things.
It just seems to me that you're trying to put it into your own head that with this, this and this mod you would be ok and the reason you couldn't control it is because your car wasn't up to the task. The car is what it is, but at 15mph the forces are so small I can't see how having a strut brace and arbs on the car would make any difference to the outcome.

A k20 EK is a FAST car and since you're talking about stripping it etc I assume you'd be planning on driving it fast. Just get a bit more experience under your belt before you do it cos these sorts of things will still happen, just with that sort of power they could well be happening at much higher speeds.
 
Was on the list of things to do. Coilies, rear subframe brace, LCAs ARBs and spoon brake swap

If it's the actual roll you want rid of buy yourself a set of decent coil overs 1st then and that will take the body roll away. Wouldn't worry about the rest if that's all your worried about ATM!
Your subframe braces etc can come after if this is a car you are definitely going to keep a full pollybush is needed with bigger arbs the lcas are bling you can re bush your own with hard race items but that comes in your re bush kit!
Spoon brakes? Yes there good but there's plenty of great setups out there far cheaper with piles of stopping power I'm running accord type r 2 pots with mtec 300mm race discs and ds3000 race pads and I was out braking a lot of bigger more expensive cars on track and I gave them death with no fade!
Also wouldn't bother with the rsr tyres either seems to be a lot of bad reports about them coming apart after hard driving and for track there only a track day tyre and once your used to it ull want more r888's is the minimum I'd use in track but it depends if your going to chase times or just for fun if it's just for fun then the others will do
 
I've driven ad08's in the rain both on road and track in an s2000.
I really don't know where all this "they are poor in the rain" comes from tbh.
Op wanted to upgrade the handling of his car prior to engine swap.
Obviously driving the car is the best thing to do but you'll reach the limit of a stock ej9 fairly quickly.

Couldn't agree more.
It's rubbish.

They are brilliant all round tyres
 
Thanks for all the info guys. I see some mentioned that an EJ will hit it's limits pretty soon but I'll work on it as best I can :) I love my EJ.
Thanks again :) looks like coilies, rebushing and, subframe, lcas and arbs will be my first hurdles.
 
Tyres should be your first call. They are what keeps you on the road after all lol
 
Nice one. You'll notice the difference with just the tyres lol
 
Rippu - you ever used ad08's? Speculating that they are **** in the wet just because it's a performance tyre is stupid. My own experience with them in the rain in a tail happy car is enough to know you haven't used them before.
R888's are fine in the rain. Standing water they are **** but wet road they are fine.

All the parts I mentioned I have experience with on my own cars, so I feel I'm in a decent position to tell him which parts are best used and in which order they should be if he's tight on budget.
He wants ultimate handling. You won't get that without the parts I mentioned fact. Dampers and arbs will get you so far, then you need camber and the rest of it.

Yes I have. You have amazing powers knowing exactly what I have and haven't used before from the other side of the country :lol:
 
Lol
Next power
You obviously didn't use them properly to say they are poor in the rain lol

And I'm in England not Scotland lol
 
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