Race-Tech Turbos

[Pag-EK9]

Hi guys ive been snooping the forums and having a search about Turbo`ing the 9..

Ive heard endless comments about how good race-tech are, i believe ricky? maybe was the name mentioned.. apprently hes an excellent tuner up there!

Im going to look into a few quotes etc for putting

B16/B18 Basic Turbo Kit - £1,495.00 : Race-Tech, Bring Your Car To Life

That onto my car, with a safe tune.

Anyone got a reasonable estimation for the cost of the end piece?

Im looking for around 260+ output at the wheels once tuned etc..

I have a budget of around 3grand maybe slightly more would this be enough for what im looking for? or is that slightly too ambitious?

Cheers Zach

 

[ry4N]

3k for the racetech kit + tuning is fine, may go slightly over.
If its a b16b you may wanna send it over to Will to tune as im sure you know the stories about b16b turbo's with their natually high compression!

Will has a Turbo'd B16b so you know its in safe hands with him!

Are you fitting this yourself or getting Ricky to do the lot? As this will bump up cost too.

 

[Pag-EK9]

Yeah ive heard there a bastard to tune!

Probably going to get the fitting done by race-tech aswell.. The less of the turbo i touch the better it will be!

Is 260whp quite low for that kit to reach? or the fact that a b16b is stupid high compression so getting a decent amount of boost out of it will be a bitch to get more HP out of it?

Thanks for speedy reply too!

 

[ry4N]

From what i remember the kit for a b series is good for about with 350bhp so 300 would be pretty safe.

As for getting more boost due to higher compression i imagine so but you have to remember the higher the compression of the engine the more likely detonation will occur when boost comes into the equaiton.

Best to get it tuned by the best

 

[EK9turbo]

My engine was B16a turbo, fully built. None of this playing around with stock blocks ;-)

dont forget to uprate (all MUST if you want to be able to track it!):
*cooling system
*Oil cooling system
*fuel system
*Quality ECU like Hondata S300, Link, AEM etc etc
*Map sensor
*Gauges! (Oil P, Oil T, Water T, Boost/Vac, Wideband!)
*Igntion system will be acceptable unless you take it higher
*Cost of Dyno-tuning

Another company to considor for the fabrication of the manifolds in that area is Nortech. Speak to James there, top guy to deal with. The quality of their hand welding on manifolds etc is second to none! They also have in-house CNC machine to make all required flanges up and they also supply various fabrication parts for other fabricators like perfect merge-collectors, turbo flanges head flanges etc. Definitely worth speaking to for a price also. I think Race-Tech's down the road from Nortech, they probably supply to Ricky.

Nortech Performance

Unit 9c, Commercial Road, Goldthorpe, Rotherham, S63 9BL

Tell: 01709 888170

 

[Raiden]

Ricky truely does know his stuff and has mapped a couple of b16b turbos previously.
That said for your power goal and piece of mind, I would probably either sell the b16b, and get a b16a. Or sell your b16b block, keep your head and get a b16a bottom end.

Look into piecing together a kit of your own, from either spoolin performace or pfab. Rickys kit is good, but these are better imo.

Take it to Ricky to fit and map...jobs a gooden.

 

[Vtec6000]

I taught Ricky made his own manifolds?

tbh I haven't had the best experience with buying a kit off Ricky, took him forever to get the kit done and sent over I had to constantly keep emailing him then when it finally arrived it wasn't what you would call a straight fit and the so called reconditioned turbo had bits blown out of the turbine so had to send the turbo back to have fixed which added another month of delays

I had contemplated buying a Go-Autoworks turbo kit from the States and sorry now I didn't.

 

[Ricky@Race-Tech]

Hi guys ive been snooping the forums and having a search about Turbo`ing the 9..

Ive heard endless comments about how good race-tech are, i believe ricky? maybe was the name mentioned.. apprently hes an excellent tuner up there!

Im going to look into a few quotes etc for putting

B16/B18 Basic Turbo Kit - £1,495.00 : Race-Tech, Bring Your Car To Life

That onto my car, with a safe tune.

Anyone got a reasonable estimation for the cost of the end piece?

Im looking for around 260+ output at the wheels once tuned etc..

I have a budget of around 3grand maybe slightly more would this be enough for what im looking for? or is that slightly too ambitious?

Cheers Zach

Budget sounds sensible, power output might be a little high on the stock engine. Assuming you do mean wheels and aren't going by hub/yanks figures.

Yeah ive heard there a bastard to tune!

Probably going to get the fitting done by race-tech aswell.. The less of the turbo i touch the better it will be!

Is 260whp quite low for that kit to reach? or the fact that a b16b is stupid high compression so getting a decent amount of boost out of it will be a bitch to get more HP out of it?

Thanks for speedy reply too!

We don't charge so much to fit as its an easy job

My engine was B16a turbo, fully built. None of this playing around with stock blocks ;-)

dont forget to uprate (all MUST if you want to be able to track it!):
*cooling system
*Oil cooling system
*fuel system
*Quality ECU like Hondata S300, Link, AEM etc etc
*Map sensor
*Gauges! (Oil P, Oil T, Water T, Boost/Vac, Wideband!)
*Igntion system will be acceptable unless you take it higher
*Cost of Dyno-tuning

Another company to considor for the fabrication of the manifolds in that area is Nortech. Speak to James there, top guy to deal with. The quality of their hand welding on manifolds etc is second to none! They also have in-house CNC machine to make all required flanges up and they also supply various fabrication parts for other fabricators like perfect merge-collectors, turbo flanges head flanges etc. Definitely worth speaking to for a price also. I think Race-Tech's down the road from Nortech, they probably supply to Ricky.

Nortech Performance

Unit 9c, Commercial Road, Goldthorpe, Rotherham, S63 9BL

Tell: 01709 888170

All our parts are made by us. I thought you knew this Will?

Ricky truely does know his stuff and has mapped a couple of b16b turbos previously.
That said for your power goal and piece of mind, I would probably either sell the b16b, and get a b16a. Or sell your b16b block, keep your head and get a b16a bottom end.

Look into piecing together a kit of your own, from either spoolin performace or pfab. Rickys kit is good, but these are better imo.

Take it to Ricky to fit and map...jobs a gooden.

As you've said your best going for the b16a/b18c4 rather than "wasting" the b16b by adding a turbo. Its far more valuable and cost effect to sell it and start over. As for the other turbo kits, your comparing our basic kit to a more expensive kit from the states. We do higher end kits. However on stock car's our kit spools better than any other we've tested and makes great power.

To the mod's. I've just being pointed this way to read this. Sorry if any of the above breaks the rules, was just answering questions. Contact me regarding trading on the forum and please feel free to remove anything you see as rule breaking.

 

[Ricky@Race-Tech]

I taught Ricky made his own manifolds?

tbh I haven't had the best experience with buying a kit off Ricky, took him forever to get the kit done and sent over I had to constantly keep emailing him then when it finally arrived it wasn't what you would call a straight fit and the so called reconditioned turbo had bits blown out of the turbine so had to send the turbo back to have fixed which added another month of delays

I had contemplated buying a Go-Autoworks turbo kit from the States and sorry now I didn't.

Just read this, sorry to hear your unhappy. You never said before while asking how to tune it? Or last week. Indeed that turbo should have never been sent out, and we since stop using the supplier that sent us that turbo. It took a month because of 2 weeks of the worse snow in years and Christmas unfortunately both things were out of my hands.

Our waiting time is still around 6-8 weeks from the time of leaving a deposit, we have just employed another member of staff to hopefully reduce this time but at the moment we are still VERY busy.

If you would like a refund on your kit to buy 1 from the states get intouch and we'll sort something.

Regards
Ricky

 

[Vtec6000]

Just read this, sorry to hear your unhappy. You never said before while asking how to tune it? Or last week. Indeed that turbo should have never been sent out, and we since stop using the supplier that sent us that turbo. It took a month because of 2 weeks of the worse snow in years and Christmas unfortunately both things were out of my hands.

Our waiting time is still around 6-8 weeks from the time of leaving a deposit, we have just employed another member of staff to hopefully reduce this time but at the moment we are still VERY busy.

If you would like a refund on your kit to buy 1 from the states get intouch and we'll sort something.

Regards
Ricky

Asking how to tune it? What are you on about. Back last year I asked a few simple tuning related question more to confirm my own thinking and you replied that you don't give out any tuning information and that's fine so don't try throw a cheap dig.

Granted the weather did hold things up but as you said that turbo should never have been sent out and you know full well I asked you 8-10 times to personally check everything was ok with the turbo kit before been sent but obviously you dismissed what I said.

You never said 6-8weeks waiting time to me but anyway even to go by that time frame you were almost two months over it. I gave you £500 deposit middle of July and then the remaining balance middle of October so that's 12 weeks yet I did not receive my kit till end of Novemember as you delayed with getting it sent and blamed this on problems with your courier yet when I had arranged a courier of my own ready to collect it you wouldn't go with that so perhaps the kit wasn't even ready when I paid the remaining balance.

And should a "Kit" not come with the needed fixings? That's another story about the banjo bolts for oil+coolant feed not been included but I won't go into it.

If I hadn't of been messed about like I was then I would have been recommending you.

 

[Rich777]

 

[Ricky@Race-Tech]

Asking how to tune it? What are you on about. Back last year I asked a few simple tuning related question more to confirm my own thinking and you replied that you don't give out any tuning information and that's fine so don't try throw a cheap dig.

Granted the weather did hold things up but as you said that turbo should never have been sent out and you know full well I asked you 8-10 times to personally check everything was ok with the turbo kit before been sent but obviously you dismissed what I said.

You never said 6-8weeks waiting time to me but anyway even to go by that time frame you were almost two months over it. I gave you £500 deposit middle of July and then the remaining balance middle of October so that's 12 weeks yet I did not receive my kit till end of Novemember as you delayed with getting it sent and blamed this on problems with your courier yet when I had arranged a courier of my own ready to collect it you wouldn't go with that so perhaps the kit wasn't even ready when I paid the remaining balance.

And should a "Kit" not come with the needed fixings? That's another story about the banjo bolts for oil+coolant feed not been included but I won't go into it.

If I hadn't of been messed about like I was then I would have been recommending you.

I don't want to get into an "E war" especially as I've offered a refund, I can do no more than this to make you happy so its something i'm never going to win.
While the kit was been made we spoke at various points mainly about tuning. We even spoke the other day, but you never mentioned you was unhappy with the kit. I'd personally call that/this a cheap shot.

The issue with the courier went on for a couple of weeks. The kit was ready the whole time. I also did the extra bits like your rocker cover catch tank etc. This delayed the kit further but you was in no rush. Your courier was double the price of mine, and I was the one paying for it, you could have paid the difference if you wanted the kit earlier but you didn't.

It was only on the off chance that you stripped the turbo you noticed the problem, its not something I would normally check as I'd have to physically strip the turbo to do so (i paid somebody else to do it) now this is all done in house, apart from the balancing which is done locally.

If you want to get intouch please do so by email/telephone or MSN like you have been previously. Your kit is probably 1 of 50+ and i'd say your probably the only person unhappy. This disappoints me, but I guess you cannot please everybody.
I'd love to be able to post everybodys kit out tomorrow but there are only so many hours in the day, as said, with our new employee we hope to get the waiting time down to just a couple of weeks rather than the current 5-6.

Speak again at some point no doubt. Get on with fitting it and i'm sure we'll both be happy again.

 

[Vtec6000]

I don't want to get into an "E war" especially as I've offered a refund, I can do no more than this to make you happy so its something i'm never going to win.
While the kit was been made we spoke at various points mainly about tuning. We even spoke the other day, but you never mentioned you was unhappy with the kit. I'd personally call that/this a cheap shot.

The issue with the courier went on for a couple of weeks. The kit was ready the whole time. I also did the extra bits like your rocker cover catch tank etc. This delayed the kit further but you was in no rush. Your courier was double the price of mine, and I was the one paying for it, you could have paid the difference if you wanted the kit earlier but you didn't.

It was only on the off chance that you stripped the turbo you noticed the problem, its not something I would normally check as I'd have to physically strip the turbo to do so (i paid somebody else to do it) now this is all done in house, apart from the balancing which is done locally.

If you want to get intouch please do so by email/telephone or MSN like you have been previously. Your kit is probably 1 of 50+ and i'd say your probably the only person unhappy. This disappoints me, but I guess you cannot please everybody.
I'd love to be able to post everybodys kit out tomorrow but there are only so many hours in the day, as said, with our new employee we hope to get the waiting time down to just a couple of weeks rather than the current 5-6.

Speak again at some point no doubt. Get on with fitting it and i'm sure we'll both be happy again.

Neither do I but I felt the OP needed to hear my experience of dealing with you and I guess you asking me do I tune much cars counts as talking "about tuning. I won't say you weren't helpful with regards questions about the kit cause you were.
You know why I contacted you last week, to try get those banjo bolts that should have been included in the first place. Had I not found it difficult to pick some up locally I wouldn't have been on to you looking for them.

That's funny as i'm pretty sure my courier was cheaper than yours unless you weren't telling me the full story and charging me extra for postage.

Just as well I guess that it turned out the turbo wouldn't line up for pipe to fmic so I had to take apart the turbo in order to rotate the housing or I would have been none the wiser to the condition of turbine till it was too late.

Fair enough if it was a once off what happened with my kit but not once did I receive a apology from you for all the inconvenience it caused and again before turbo was sent back to me in January I asked you several times to send me those bolts I needed which you said you would and didn't

I have been buying car parts from various companies for years and this is the first time I ever had to post bad rep about any company so IMO i'm not a hard customer to deal with infact I think I was very patient with you considering the length of time it took.
In away its good that I have brought this up on a open forum for all to see and especially that you have seen it as i'm sure you will take better care of your next customers.

I won't comment on the quality of kit until it's on the car and running for some time and if its the case it turns out good i'll be happy to say that.

 

[EK9turbo]

All our parts are made by us. I thought you knew this Will?

Ricky, re-read my post. I suggested you might buy fabrication parts from that company like head flanges/collectors/turbo to dowpipe flanges etc, all stuff thats normally cnc cut. I didnt mean the turbo manifolds etc I know you make them yourself.

 

[Pag-EK9]

This thread has kind of gone into a E-war!

But yes thank you for all the replies etc, Im going to look into a differnt bottom end before going for the turbo. How would the engine from a 96 JDM Teg cope with the pressure?

Not too keen on the idea of putting in a C4 or b16a into a ek9 would be easier to sell up and turbo a tidy VTi.

Im going to look into piecing the kit together from various forsale sections on forums rather than buy a hole kit,

What parts do i need to look for as a necessity for the kit? (as in turbo itself, intercooler, manifold)

Im aiming for anywhere near the 300break mark now

Cheers again

 

[pedro_rallye]

biggest issue will be cooling it effectively, oil and coolant...they heat up a lot these b-series!

 

[eg-greeny]

I've put a deposit on my kit with Ricky. I can't wait personally. I've been in talks with Ricky at race-tech for months, and cannot fault the bloke. He always replies quickly, he has a lot of knowledge and is generally very helpful and a genuinely nice bloke!
Recommended from me

 

[si8pny]

This thread has kind of gone into a E-war!

But yes thank you for all the replies etc, Im going to look into a differnt bottom end before going for the turbo. How would the engine from a 96 JDM Teg cope with the pressure?

Not too keen on the idea of putting in a C4 or b16a into a ek9 would be easier to sell up and turbo a tidy VTi.

Im going to look into piecing the kit together from various forsale sections on forums rather than buy a hole kit,

What parts do i need to look for as a necessity for the kit? (as in turbo itself, intercooler, manifold)

Im aiming for anywhere near the 300break mark now

Cheers again

If you were to sell up and buy a vti to turbo the turbo kit would probs cost you nothing