s80 4.7fd with s4c 4th+5th


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ive decided to go with a new gear setup for this season so my own gearbox my 98spec s80 with4.7 and s4c 4th and 5th is up for sale. I used this for 4 weekends of racing last season with 2 test days. All synchros were replaced at this time last year and brand new diff bearings installed. i will not get this taken out for another week and a half.
I will guarantee this gearbox as being absolutely perfect.

item for sale: s80 box with 4.7 and s4c 4th +5th
condition: absolutely spot on!
price: 500 euro...no offers.
location: kildare, ireland
paypal: kevinvmoran@gmail.com dont forget 4% fees if paying this way
description: as above
postage: can post to uk mainland for 75euro
pictures: this is after everything was put in and casing was painted. its a bit dirtier than that now though.....


no dibs first with cash gets it.
 



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I'm waiting for your next batch, ran this setup with my old vsm ek9 and it kept up with my mates dc5 lol
 


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I tried to reach a solution with the seller, but without success.

Here is the "absolutely perfect" condition gearbox which I received 2 days ago.

ImageShack Album - 13 images

I will start a thread with more detailed information and photos about this case, because Weasel is ignoring me.

It looks like the gearbox was standing without oil for a long time, there are dust and dirt on the hubs and gears, the magnetic part which attracts metal particles are freshly cleaned, 3rd, 4th and 5th gear hubs/sleeves and synchros are worn, 1 bearring is loud as f***, etc.

You will see how this "perfect" gearbox looks from outside (oil and dirt everywhere) and I even don't see if it was ever painted as per description. So a lot of wrong information. I believe the seller thought he can cheat a guy from abroad, so took an old damaged gearbox from the shelf and sent it to me.

Just for the people who can start to concern about my reputation or experience in honda world, you can check ebay.co.uk (user id: mj_stakis, 100% positive feedback for more than 600 transactions), I am Drag Racing All motor Street Class Champion 2012 in Lithuania, with a lot of titles in Lithuania, Latvia, etc. and a lot of experience with Honda cars. And I easily give my word about every detail or information I provide, I can even pray my mothers life for this (every every small detail provided is 1000% thruth), so you can ask or discuss any question you like.
Marius,
i have replied to every single PM that you sent me and i have not ignored any of your questions to date, even when you threatened me with illegal or legal solutions.
I suggested that this matter be aired publicly to gauge the reaction in the wider community. This way we may both take on board the public opinion and learn from the issue, and where to proceed with matters from here.
This gearbox at the time of sale was in perfect working order and as i said in the original post it has covered a years worth of racing and needs a proper clean. The picture i have above is when i painted it myself.
As said to you before, my concern is that the parts that you have pictured are not from the box i sold to you.
If you had installed my gearbox and driven it you would have noticed that there was no problems whatsoever. If there was I would be happy to deal on the issue of a refund.
Also, yo umention that 1 bearing is as load as ****.
Firstly, why didnt you mention this to me in a PM?...
Secondly, if youvhavnt installed the gearbox on a car and under loaded conditions, how do you know its faulty?
Thirdly, how do I know you havnt taken a used bearing from somewhere else....

Im sorry it has come to this, but after numerous threats via PM and all these different (new) problems coming to light I am very suspicious of the true nature of the problems here.

Kevin.
 

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Just so everyone is clear, here is the full list of PM's back and forth between Marius and I.
Weasel said:
The last time we talked was last sunday. thats 4 days ago, not a week.
I am still busy trying to source parts.
i will contact you when the parts are ready.
Stakis said:
Hello,

Maybe you have some more detailed information about the parts we talked a week ago?
Stakis said:
and I just forgot to mention that i need only perfect condition stuff, that's why i bought it from you being absolutely perfect. So if you can supply me only with average condition used parts I would better return the gearbox to you rather than keeping it.

Thank you for understanding.

Stakis said:
Hi,

Allright m8, just make sure these are in really good condition, ok? And if possible, maybe you could provide me with some photo, just to be both sure that the parts are good ones? As I would expect them to be alittle bit better than average condition, because of the description of the gearbox I bought (absolutely perfect).

I got allready 5th gear with 28 and 32 tooths I believe (on tuesday i must receive them).

Looking forward to sort this out asap.

Thank you.





Weasel said:
Hi,
just to let you know, i have some genuine Honda synchro rings that are in good condition.
I will be getting them independantly checked by another member on this site before i send them to you.
I have also sourced some hub rings and sleeves. i will be collecting them during the week.
I have also sourced a 5th gear which your looking for, I dont know the condition of this yet,I will clarify during the week.
I'l try source a new or nearly new 3rd/4th hub ring.
Depending on what i have i may have to send you some cash as well.
Let me see what i have at the weekend and i'l get back to you early next week.
Stakis said:
Look Kevin, I am a friendly and honest guy and I allways will do everything for the situation to solve in the right way.

If we will agree on part refund, there is no problem to buy synchros for me. The biggest problem are sleeves. I believe I have 5th gear one, but 3/4 is hard to get.

OK, I will hold this at the status that we are trying to agree and find a slotuion.
Weasel said:
Okay, listen i am not a fraud in any way and i want to make this situation better.
I think we should relax for a while and take the opinions of others first. Then we can asses the situation better and come to a conclusion.
I would rather keep contact in writing just so as there is no misunderstandings.
Stakis said:
As I said I am ready to provide any other information you may require, make photos or anything you like. As I said I can even swear or pray with my mothers life about the information and photos I provide. I am not a kid and I am not a poor guy to play with such things which you state (photos of another parts, etc).

I just want to solve this matter as now I am feeling like you cheated me firstly by sending poor condition gearbox for a lot of money, secondly for the communicating manner and not wanting to discuss or make wise decisions.

All I said, that I will not leave this matter at this point, because I am 1000% sure about what i say and what i sent you. I know how good condition gearbox must look like and I know how damaged synchros look like.

You can give me a ring on +370 616 86666 if you have doubts. You can contact my via ebay: Mj_stakis . And you will see that I am not that guy who can play with the things like different part photos, etc.

And if we will agree to return the gearbox to you, I can promise and assure you that you will get every bolt/parts, nuts as you sent, so any even little part or nut will not be missing and all these parts will be from the gearbox you sent me.

THAT'S MY WORD!

Marius

Weasel said:
Listen, you have me completely wrong here.
Like i said it might be a good idea to start a thread and gauge the public response to this matter. This is the first time that this has ever happened to me so its a good opportunity for us both to learn and then move on from the situation.
Stakis said:
so you thought i am abroad and you can cheat me? :))) i am going to UK every month, so will try to organise the route and visit your country too.

as i said no games here, this is the gearbox you sent me and i am very angry on you because of this.


Weasel said:
I think maybe you should start a thread on this forum and see what the general opinion is.
I dont think that it would be too different from my own.
Stakis said:
so you thought i am abroad and you can cheat me? :))) i am going to UK every month, so will try to organise the route and visit your country too.

as i said no games here, this is the gearbox you sent me and i am very angry on you because of this.


Weasel said:
I think maybe you should start a thread on this forum and see what the general opinion is.
I dont think that it would be too different from my own.
Stakis said:
you are stupid? or you just act like one???? this is a gearbox and the only way to inspect it's condition is to open the cover.

the electronic components are sealed in the shops. here is repaired gearbox, which is in terrible condition and worth maximum 200eur.

So my last offer: 250gbp refund to marius@smf.su.lt paypal or i am sending it back and believe me I will get every penny back. my promise. you are dealing with serious persons here, so not your usual kid games. You see the gearbox you sent me and after doing this you still are brave enought to start such topics with me.

Together with my money back i will do everything to inform people about this situation, because of your reaction and messages you are sending me.
Weasel said:
Why do you continue to threaten me like this??Mate, I am not here to 'kid' anyone.
Lets just make a comparison; if you buy an electronics component from a shop/vendor/seller and you take it home and take it apart, any warranty or obligation that the seller had to honour the validity of the part is now void! This is worldwide common knowledge!
It would seem as though you cannot understand this point.

Stakis said:
So you are pushing me to make this problem public. And to look for legal or illegal solutions in this situation.

All the parts pictured are from your gearbox and that's 1000% and i give my word and even my mothers life for it. So don't kid in this place. As I said i am a genuine person, not a kid to play with the things you mention.




Weasel said:
Hello,
firstly, let me say again, that this gearbox WAS in perfect condition at the time of sale. there was no crunching or grinding or any other issues (or leaky seals as you seem to suggest) with the box at any time.
let me say again that just over a year ago i replaced a diff bearing and synchro rings and since then the box has a full season of racing on it. It was in perfect working order (as stated), but obviously the final drive, hub rings and other parts were all original.
All of the above was stated in my for sale thread.
Secondly, it does not make sense to me for you to open up the box when u received it.
If you had installed the box and took it for a test drive and noticed any issues (which you would not have) then i would not have a leg to stand on and I would have to issue you a refund.
My concern is that the parts which you have pictured are not from the gearbox i sold you (and this is a serious concern).
As far as refunds and postage returns etc go, I am unwilling to meet your demands at this time for the reasons outlined above.
I am sorry it has come to this.

Regards,
Kevin.
Stakis said:
Hi,

Maybe you have some ideas about the gearbox and how you would like to proceed? I am ready to send it back to you, but I will require full refund including payment and delivery back to you.

Thanks
Stakis said:
The gearbox after usage looks alittle bit different. I am a genuine guy and that is not my manier to threaten or cheat. Check my ebay feedback: Mj_stakis. I am well know person in Lithuania and Latvia, drag racing champion, etc. etc.

One seal is damaged because one corner of the gearbox is dirty and splashed with oil which looks like was coming thru the seal.

4th and 5th gears seems like was used most and they are dead (both sleeves and synchros), 3rd gear is also on the limit. I can show you how my other gearbox looks after 2 seasons with carbon synchros. I simply can tell you that it is in much much better condition.

I am uploading photos now to imageshack or somewhere, so you will see yourself what we've seen after opening the casing.

To be honest it looks like used many time ago or like it was assembled from the parts which was standing on the shelf for a year or so. You will see the dirt on the hubs, the gearbox is dry of oil, you can't even feel that it was used or filled with oil. And to be honest I don't even imagine how you could use it, because it had to crunch when changing into 4th gear, also it could crunch when going into 3rd and 5th.

To be honest I am not going to argue with you as I was shocked with what I got, that's why my reaction was like this. Sorry for that.

I was also pleased with your reputation, so was 100% sure I will get a perfect gearbox, but the one I got is..... sorry.









Weasel said:
Hello there.
Firstly, I take it you did not drive your car with the gearbox installed since you sent me a PM a couple of days ago saying you received it and you would be inspecting it.
The gearbox drives perfectly without any crunches grinding or whines. A number of people can testify this as the drove the car with this gearbox installed.
The gearbox was refreshed 1 year ago (as i stated in my original for sale thread with new synchro's and diff bearings.)
I did not open the gearbox up since it had these installed as i did'nt need to because there was no problems.
The gearbox has been drained of oil completely well before it was shipped. No courying company will ship mechanical items with oil still installed. So I made sure that every last drop was emptied.
Also, the casing was painted as this is the gearbox in my original for sale thread which i included a picture of at the time i painted it.
After a year of racing and testing dyno sessions etc. it will obviously get dirty. I also mentioned that it is a good bit dirtier now than when the picture was taken and that it may need a bit of cleaning.
The seals were never damaged on this gearbox, i made doubly sure of that before i sent it away, so i dont know where your coming from here.
I never try to cheat anyone. I have an immaculate reputation and no one has ever had any problems in the years ive been on here and any other forum.
The last point I want to make is this; you havnt sent me any pictures and your quoting innacurate things. You are also issuing threats to damage my reputation and issuing demands for your money back etc.
Most people would not even entertain anyone behaving in this fassion.
How can i be sure that you didnt have any second hand worn parts yourself that you could be mixing with my gearbox.....I cant. ....
Please dont message me again with threatening and abusive behaviour. If you want to discuss this like gentlemen that is no problem, but I will not entertain being spoken to in an abusive manner.

Regards,
Kevin.
Stakis said:
Bad news. The gearbox is completely worn: 3rd and 4th gear sleeves and synchros dead, 5th gear hub/sleeve and synchro worn badly too. 2 bearrings are worn and also need replacing.

I don't know why you lied that you used and that it was freshly built, in perfect condition bla bla bla, I have your advert screenshot, etc. the gearbox is dry, so no oil was used in it, all the hubs/sleeves are from the shelf with dust and dirt, so it wasn't used I believe for long time. Maybe you mixed and sent wrong rubbish gearbox?

Looking forward to your fast reply as we need to find a solution.

I can even imagine that condition gearboxes you sold to other pranks, which was sold cheapper, and which you stated rebuilt also..

I have a lot of photos, so if we will not reach agreement I will promote all these things widely.

I would like to get my money back + postage of the gearbox back to you if you would like to get it back.

jus to add, the casing was never painted, seals are damaged, so the oil was splitting all the way around, etc.

Look, this situation is getting worse as I am getting angry on you as you tried to cheat me??????
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The gearbox was painted and is the one in the picture above albeit a bit dirtier.
This is the first time I have ever had a confrontation of this nature and I am eager to gauge the public reaction as I have stated in my PM's. Please state your opinions on this matter.

Update as of 18/02/13:
I am sourcing the correct replacement parts for this guy as per agreement to demand number 3. I will also be getting an independent inspection done by a honda mechanic who is also a member on this forum.
As has been pointed out in bold from the messages above, the demands of the buyer keep changing from day to day. I will be sticking to our agreement on demand number 3, but I will also supply photos before sending parts.
All of the demands below are taken directly in writing from PM's which can also be read above:

Demand number 5 i need only perfect condition stuff, that's why i bought it from you being absolutely perfect. So if you can supply me only with average condition used parts I would better return the gearbox to you rather than keeping it.
Demand number 4 supply photos As I would expect them to be alittle bit better than average condition,
Demand number 3 Replacement parts in good condition to be supplied by seller as per post numbers 33 34 and 35 in this thread. And as per agreement in writing through Pm's which has been added above.
Demand number 2: So my last offer: 250gbp refund to marius@smf.su.lt
Demand number 1 I would like to get my money back + postage of the gearbox back to you if you would like to get it back.
 

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As far as reputation goes, mine is second to none. Having dealt with members, traders and moderators on this very forum and every time with positive results. I also have accounts on numerous other forums with an immaculate reputation on every one.
I used this gearbox last year with no issues at all. As far as proof is concerned, look at the incar footage, there is no problem with any gears, unusual noises etc.
14/04/12 - Kevin Moran - Honda Coupe- Touring Class -ITCC Qualifying @ Mondello - YouTube

I just had a chance to look more closely at the pictures you took.
Firstly, one of the synchro rings looks to have been filed at some stage.
Secondly, the hub rings are extremely dirty and look like theyve been lying in a box?? or something for quite a while.
I dont want to imply anything here but i dont think these come from the box i sold to you.
 


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Weasel has been on this forum for years and sold numerous gearboxes without any problems and is a well known trusted member of this site. I'm afraid i don't understand why you would get a gearbox and strip it down without trying it in the car first??? Also your imageshack library shows you have worked on gearboxes before and that you do drag racing, so could very easily just take some pictures of old syncro's and gears removed from previous boxes that you would clearly have as there are pictures of new parts in those gearboxes. just my 2 cents.
 


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If stakis was out to scam someone he would have payed goods and disputed like he's said, doesn't make sense for him to pay gift then try and claim its the wrong box as legally he's not a leg to stand on.
Obviously There is an innocent mistake happened somewhere along the lines.
Perhaps weasel sent the wrong box by accident?

On the other hand if weasel is 100% sure he has sent the right box and 100% on its condition then stakis has no choice other than to accept what he's been sent. He can try and tarnish reputations and what not but with only 87 post not alot of you guys are going to listen.
 

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Just because a member is on here for years don't mean they wont sell bad stuff,
I got caught with an engine from weasel that he advertised on here for his buddy Norman and that's were these boxes are coming from so not surprised there in bits tbh.
 


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ive decided to go with a new gear setup for this season so my own gearbox my 98spec s80 with4.7 and s4c 4th and 5th is up for sale. I used this for 4 weekends of racing last season with 2 test days. All synchros were replaced at this time last year and brand new diff bearings installed. i will not get this taken out for another week and a half.
I will guarantee this gearbox as being absolutely perfect.

item for sale: s80 box with 4.7 and s4c 4th +5th
condition: absolutely spot on!
price: 500 euro...no offers.
location: kildare, ireland
paypal: kevinvmoran@gmail.com dont forget 4% fees if paying this way
description: as above
postage: can post to uk mainland for 75euro
pictures: this is after everything was put in and casing was painted. its a bit dirtier than that now though.....


no dibs first with cash gets it.
Seller:
"I will guarantee this gearbox as being absolutely perfect."

So what is the guarantee in detail?

Buyer: this was raced, I assume you knew that via the post. Raced equipment is damaged equipment...goes without saying in my world.
 


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PM sent Kieran, why am i only hearing about this now?!?!?!

@Stakis, thats the second time youve threatened to solve the problem by Legal means. That is absolutely no problem if you want to go down that route. I just find it strange to threaten people with Legal, illegal and 'come visit me yourself' solutions when the issue is still at hand.
There is still a lot of questions that need to be answered.
1. why did you strip the gearbox and not test it (drive it) in a car first? (This to my knowledge is normal procedure).
2. What parts exactly are damaged-worn-noisy??-not fit for use...


Just to note, I have issued refunds to people on here before. One chap in particular not long ago.
I have no problem issuing refunds either.
Stakis has not yet gave me a definitive list of things that are wrong...i dont know why this is.
Numerous people drove the car with this box installed and also see video footage above and EVERYTHING was perfect.
Believe me a few hundred quid is nothing compared to the cost of racing so why would I bother to sell shitty parts for a headache like this?!?!?!

All you have given me so far is a very VERY vague description of some damaged parts which seem to be added to regularly.
Bearings which are as loud as ****?.......How on earth did you come to this conclusion if you have not even driven the gearbox to test it out?!?!?!

The only demands I have been met with so far are to issue a full refund with postage prices included (back and forth), and a second offer of 250GBP to get it solved more quickly.

I am not here to rip people off as you seem to suggest in your post above.
This all seems like to much of a coincidence compared to a gearbox with was proven to be perfect only a short while ago.

@Tama, the last time i raced it it was perfect. Smooth changes, no clunkiness etc. I had no reason to believe it wasnt in perfect working order!
 

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And one More thing, The gearbox i sold you was an N3E gearbox. Not an N3C.
That is absolutely and totally provable as I have pictures.
I would also like to hear your explanation of that.
 


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PM sent Kieran, why am i only hearing about this now?!?!?!

@Stakis, thats the second time youve threatened to solve the problem by Legal means. That is absolutely no problem if you want to go down that route. I just find it strange to threaten people with Legal, illegal and 'come visit me yourself' solutions when the issue is still at hand.
There is still a lot of questions that need to be answered.
1. why did you strip the gearbox and not test it (drive it) in a car first? (This to my knowledge is normal procedure).
2. What parts exactly are damaged-worn-noisy??-not fit for use...


Just to note, I have issued refunds to people on here before. One chap in particular not long ago.
I have no problem issuing refunds either.
Stakis has not yet gave me a definitive list of things that are wrong...i dont know why this is.
Numerous people drove the car with this box installed and also see video footage above and EVERYTHING was perfect.
Believe me a few hundred quid is nothing compared to the cost of racing so why would I bother to sell shitty parts for a headache like this?!?!?!

All you have given me so far is a very VERY vague description of some damaged parts which seem to be added to regularly.
Bearings which are as loud as ****?.......How on earth did you come to this conclusion if you have not even driven the gearbox to test it out?!?!?!

The only demands I have been met with so far are to issue a full refund with postage prices included (back and forth), and a second offer of 250GBP to get it solved more quickly.

I am not here to rip people off as you seem to suggest in your post above.
This all seems like to much of a coincidence compared to a gearbox with was proven to be perfect only a short while ago.

@Tama, the last time i raced it it was perfect. Smooth changes, no clunkiness etc. I had no reason to believe it wasnt in perfect working order!

Look, if you state that you rebuild gearboxes or state that they are in perfect condition, so maybe firstly read some books? inspect some gearboxes and only after that tell people about condition.

If you don't know how to check bearrings, how good synchros and/or slleves look, so what we can talk about further?

It is clearly stated in my messages what is wrong with it. At first I thought you will send me good replacement parts and we will solve this easily, as this is not a big problem for me to rebuild it, but after you started wish me good buy and good luck I have no other clue what to do with you.

Tama666 > I know this, but if an old forum member say this (as I said I've seen him selling more gearboxes here, so I thought that gearbox man have the best of the best in his car and the price reflected this, so i had no doubt, bought it from him), that it was freshly built and hardly used, so I believed him. Ofcourse I asked him 3 or 4 times about the condition by messaging (will post these messages here) and in all of them the reply was that it is sweet, absolutely perfect, etc.

Just if you don't read, I will list again the parts which are far away from perfect:

3rd/4th gear sleeve/hub
3rd gear synchro
4th gear synchro
5th gear sleeve
5th gear synchro
1 bearring (the balls are loud)
1 oil seal (driveshaft one)

To be honest, bearring and seal is nothing and I can replace it without discussions, but offcourse when you pay money for the gearbox which according to the seller is absolutely perfect, sweet, sound, etc. (It was described so and I seperately asked him about the condition 3 times, asked to check it before sending as postage expenses are highi and he guaranteed that it is perfect) I believe even these things must be in perfect condition too.

As I said in my messages to you, 3rd gear can be usable in some situations, but i wouldn't value it in perfect condition, it is good for daily driver maybe.

I will tell you again and again, that because you was trying to get out "dry" in this situation, because you said I am a lier, scammer I will solve this matter in any way possible. So friendly, legal, illegal, it doesn't matter. Everything depends on you and atm you are acting wrong. This is not about the money now if you understand me correctly.

What other information you need? As I said I can provide you with any information needed and any photo needed as I have nothing to hide or worry, I know what I received from you.

Yes, now you are telling why I haven't putted this in the car, I just can imagine what you would had said if I had done that. You would say that I damaged it, that this is gearbox and is very easy to damaged if you don't know how to engage clutch etc :)) Don't play, I am telling you again.

I allways open and inspect every part I buy or use, because this is intended to be used for RACING, do you know what racing is? So everything, starting from bottom end, head, driveshafts, brakes, everything is removed and inspected before the season.
 


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Buyer and Seller; you both have some points to stand on...end of the day try to find a common ground that is fair.

I feel that the seller should offer to help pay to have it corrected, parts only.

The buyer should pay to have it rebuilt, seeing that its broken open now. That would seem to be a good compromise/common ground.
 


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Look, if you state that you rebuild gearboxes or state that they are in perfect condition, so maybe firstly read some books? inspect some gearboxes and only after that tell people about condition.

If you don't know how to check bearrings, how good synchros and/or slleves look, so what we can talk about further?

It is clearly stated in my messages what is wrong with it. At first I thought you will send me good replacement parts and we will solve this easily, as this is not a big problem for me to rebuild it, but after you started wish me good buy and good luck I have no other clue what to do with you.

Tama666 > I know this, but if an old forum member say this (as I said I've seen him selling more gearboxes here, so I thought that gearbox man have the best of the best in his car and the price reflected this, so i had no doubt, bought it from him), that it was freshly built and hardly used, so I believed him. Ofcourse I asked him 3 or 4 times about the condition by messaging (will post these messages here) and in all of them the reply was that it is sweet, absolutely perfect, etc.

Just if you don't read, I will list again the parts which are far away from perfect:

3rd/4th gear sleeve/hub
3rd gear synchro
4th gear synchro
5th gear sleeve
5th gear synchro
1 bearring (the balls are loud)
1 oil seal (driveshaft one)

To be honest, bearring and seal is nothing and I can replace it without discussions, but offcourse when you pay money for the gearbox which according to the seller is absolutely perfect, sweet, sound, etc. (It was described so and I seperately asked him about the condition 3 times, asked to check it before sending as postage expenses are highi and he guaranteed that it is perfect) I believe even these things must be in perfect condition too.

As I said in my messages to you, 3rd gear can be usable in some situations, but i wouldn't value it in perfect condition, it is good for daily driver maybe.

I will tell you again and again, that because you was trying to get out "dry" in this situation, because you said I am a lier, scammer I will solve this matter in any way possible. So friendly, legal, illegal, it doesn't matter. Everything depends on you and atm you are acting wrong. This is not about the money now if you understand me correctly.

What other information you need? As I said I can provide you with any information needed and any photo needed as I have nothing to hide or worry, I know what I received from you.

Yes, now you are telling why I haven't putted this in the car, I just can imagine what you would had said if I had done that. You would say that I damaged it, that this is gearbox and is very easy to damaged if you don't know how to engage clutch etc :)) Don't play, I am telling you again.

I allways open and inspect every part I buy or use, because this is intended to be used for RACING, do you know what racing is? So everything, starting from bottom end, head, driveshafts, brakes, everything is removed and inspected before the season.
Hold on for one moment, I never said you were a liar.
I never said you were a scammer.

It was in fact you who said those things about me!!

You also never mentioned asking me for new replacement parts, you were so intent on threatening me legally and physically that maybe you forgot?.....

You still have not answered all of the questions i have asked you in my last post.
I still honour my values to keep each buyer happy, but I have to be honest my patience is wearing pretty thin.

Please refrain from childish name calling, threatening behaviour and heresay and deal with the issue profesionally.


@:Tama, i agree with you completely, but i need my questions answered in full before we can proceed down that path.


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tama666

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Weasel, you had some serious issues with the track car last I read...this damage might have happened then, right about when you stopped tracking.
 


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It's really a case of one man's word against another with no hard evidence or witness to prove otherwise.

Weasel - although you have a good reputation and have sold gearboxes etc for years, it only takes one mistake/dispute that's not handled well for the previous dealings to mean little. You may of sent the right box, but as a seller shouldn't you do all you can within your powers to reasonably bring the situation to a satisfactory conclusion (part refund/part repair or whatever is appropriate)? I think the word 'perfect' in the description can mean different things to different people, to you it could of meant its all working fine and no faults from what you can feel and hear or even inspect. To Stakis that could of meant all parts inside are not worn at all and mint condition. Do you have any third party proof of its condition before sending out?

Stakis - I can understand why you opened the box first (inspect the goods, do some work etc), the point is, do you have any evidence to prove this was the box Weasel sent and all the parts inside you say are faulty belong to that box, apart from your word and the photos you took yourself? Third party inspection/witness?

There's no easy way to resolve this, someone has to compromise or find that common solution etc. to put the episode behind and learn their lesson. Hope a solution is reached soon.
 

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Weasel, you had some serious issues with the track car last I read...this damage might have happened then, right about when you stopped tracking.
I fried my ecu with a multimeter, Had some problems with warranty on the parts stateside which cost a lot of time, that and the fact i didnt want to go back to the class i was racing in.
 


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Seller; please set it up and offer the buyer a solution, its on you to help resolve this issue more than its on the buyer.

Buyer; try to work more with the seller to find a good common ground.

We all all adults here, show some love please. Get it done!
 


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@ray, yes i agree with you mate. The reason I wanted this aired publicly is to gauge the reaction from everyone.
I am still open to dealing with Stakis (and i'l probably end up refunding him in some part
depending on what agreement we can come to).

The thread here is not about me not willing to deal with Stakis in any way. I wanted to see what everyone else thinks and also have all my questions dealt with publically.
 


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