Suspension Question

[Carnage86]

Well my car came with Tokico Blue shocks (non adjustables) with Skunk2 Coilovers. The ride is fine and im thinking about taking my car out on the track after i replace the brake rotors and pads (i think one of the rotors is warped), i also have to replace a wheel stud since it was stripped by the previous owner. Think i'll be ok with that setup for some fun? I dont expect to be an all out track car- just wondering if i'll need any type of reinforcement or stability like better sway bars, or something. Im trying to learn about this sport and it seems suspension is key.

 

[blinx9900]

Well my car came with Tokico Blue shocks (non adjustables) with Skunk2 Coilovers. The ride is fine and im thinking about taking my car out on the track after i replace the brake rotors and pads (i think one of the rotors is warped), i also have to replace a wheel stud since it was stripped by the previous owner. Think i'll be ok with that setup for some fun? I dont expect to be an all out track car- just wondering if i'll need any type of reinforcement or stability like better sway bars, or something. Im trying to learn about this sport and it seems suspension is key.

thats an "ok" set up just for fun if your starting, but you will eventually want to get stiffer springs damping adjustable shocks, and upgraded sway bars.

to start id first get a decent front and rear shock tower brace, have some fun then upgrade from there. what car is this?

in this order
shock tower bars
upgraded sway bars
stiffer springs and shocks
better tires
cage

the most important thing is that you have fun.

 

[Carnage86]

Its on my 98 Ek...motors weak but a friend said it would be better that id start off with a "less powerful" car so i can get used to a few things. In a way i dont want to spend a lot of money on it to make it an all out track car- i still want it to be somewhat comfy for daily driving. And i know i'll have to get new brake pads after a session, and tires as well but im ok with that since i wont be doing it every weekend. I just didn't want this to be a 1/4 racer, were building my fiancees eg hatch for that. Thanxs for the suggestions. Should i get something super beefy like this

http://www.passwordjdm.com/product....ageHistory=&strKeywords=&SearchFor=&PT_ID=289
http://www.passwordjdm.com/product....ageHistory=&strKeywords=&SearchFor=&PT_ID=289

Or would something like this work
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CIVI...089450018QQcategoryZ33591QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
just as reference

another one of my friends is wanting to try the autox thing with me as well- he has a 95 4dr that hes already somewhat been setting up the suspension for. Thanx again for the suggestions and a starting point.

 

[rvm]

That strut bar on ebay looks like if it's going to break lol, the password jdm is ok, since it's a complete "combo" why don't you try first, front strut bar, and civic type r sway bars? i think that might help you a lot.

i run at the track with the ek9 suspension, and its just perfect! i know i will need and upgrade sooner or later, but right now i can run with the stock one! i don't need a better one

 

[Carnage86]

you mean your running stock shocks/springs? or everything else. your car looks pretty low for being on stock suspension...if so maybe i should just get stock ek9 suspension, i dont like being this low and bumpy.

 

[rvm]

you mean your running stock shocks/springs? or everything else. your car looks pretty low for being on stock suspension...if so maybe i should just get stock ek9 suspension, i dont like being this low and bumpy.

if your budget is not that hi, i would recommend you an ek9 stock suspension, great for daily drive and excellent for the track!

 

[blinx9900]

stay away from EBAY bars!! the password stuff is nice but a little bit expensive. i would get either the password stuff or cusco front and rear. as far as brakes, make sure to do a rear disc conversion becuase drums tend to overheat at the track, upgraded pads on stock rotors should be good enough to start. a decent set of 15" or 16" wheels. stock ek9 suspension is nice but very expensive to get in the usa so i would stay away from that. the only parts of the ek9 suspension i would use are the sway bars front and rear, the front is the exact same as the 99 us spec civic si, to do the conversion you need the sway bar, lower control arms, and shock forks. for the rear you need the sway bar, endlinks, and a reinforcement plate like the ASR piece password sells. after that you can get some ground control coilovers and koni shocks or whatever you want to do for springs and shocks, just so you know its almost impossible to keep your comfort.

pm me if you need a price on anything. dont worry advice is always free.

 

[Carnage86]

yeah i figured stock ek9 suspension would be pricey here in the states. I'll check out cusco products. but yeah im starting to look for a rear disk conversion. I heard brembo makes rear drum kits...but yeah i'll go for that rear disk conversion. i'll keep u guys updated.

 

[blinx9900]

i'll keep u guys updated.

please do, ive gone through like 4 different suspension set ups so i got a decent amount of knowledge and experience on it, feel free to ask any other questions.

 

[Dino-Spumoni]

Check out picperformance.com its a step above other coilovers in the same price range. Go with selects. And if you do add a rear sway bar bigger than the stock si one (13mm) you will need some subframe reinforcemnt from ASR.

 

[rvm]

ek9 suspension in the USA retails for like 450$ right ?

 

[Dino-Spumoni]

ek9 suspension in the USA retails for like 450$ right ?

Is there a website that has them for sale? I know I cant go the dealer to get them. I have never seen ek9 shocks/springs for sale on a website either. What are the stock ek9 spring rates by the way??

 

[blinx9900]

Is there a website that has them for sale? I know I cant go the dealer to get them. I have never seen ek9 shocks/springs for sale on a website either. What are the stock ek9 spring rates by the way??

250lbs/in front and rear

 

[Dino-Spumoni]

250lbs/in front and rear

Thank you I have been looking for that information for a long time. I assume honda did that because its a street car, it has to be comfortable, and with the same rates front to rear its very track worthy, set up for oversteer. Usually on stock cars you see much higher rates up front for understeer.

 

[blinx9900]

Thank you I have been looking for that information for a long time. I assume honda did that because its a street car, it has to be comfortable, and with the same rates front to rear its very track worthy, set up for oversteer. Usually on stock cars you see much higher rates up front for understeer.

yes, i agree the front is actually 250 linear while the rear is 250 progressive so it is friendly on the street.

 

[Dino-Spumoni]

yes, i agree the front is actually 250 linear while the rear is 250 progressive so it is friendly on the street.

Thanks. I guess I learn somehting new every day.