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martinmck06

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Wondering if some1 could help me!
i have a jordan B16a2 engine. the head gasket had went so its had new radiator, water pump, timing belt, all gaskets and seals replaced and the head skimmed. the problem is that its still mixin coolant and oil in the radiator and is goin through alot of coolant! the other day there was oil coming through 1 of the seals in the spark plus tunnel! so 2night we took the cam cover off and sealed the ring again! but i noticed there was lots of gloopy grey oil/coolant stuck 2 the underneath of the cam cover? the oil isnt mixin inside the head or in the oil sump? the cam cover was steam cleaned after the gaskets got done so y is there gloopy grey oil/coolant under the cam cover? does any1 have any ideas because its driving me crazy?
thanks alot martin :D
 
y is there oil and coolant mix on the underneath of the cam cover and not in the head? i will pass this info onto my michanic! with the money iam spendin i would be better gettin a new engine
 
martinmck06 said:
y is there oil and coolant mix on the underneath of the cam cover and not in the head? i will pass this info onto my michanic! with the money iam spendin i would be better gettin a new engine
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Only explanation for that is he didnt clean it after doing the head? Same for the oil mixing in the rad , he might not have cleaned out the waterjacket and flushed it

When you say eating coolant , is the level in the rad low or the expansion bottle? It may have been partially air locked or there is a leak.

Either way go back and get him to sort it. Paying good money for poor workmanship is not on.
 
the cam cover was defo cleaned because the steam ripped all the red paint off it! and i was with him when we done a 2nd flush on the car!!! the radiator is ok because iam keepin the reseviour bottle full all the time!! it doesnt make sence 2 me! look at another few forums! they r sayin it could be a crack in the block! thinkin of scrappin the car soon! its a shame because its a lovely lookin jordan
 
martinmck06 said:
the cam cover was defo cleaned because the steam ripped all the red paint off it! and i was with him when we done a 2nd flush on the car!!! the radiator is ok because iam keepin the reseviour bottle full all the time!! it doesnt make sence 2 me! look at another few forums! they r sayin it could be a crack in the block! thinkin of scrappin the car soon! its a shame because its a lovely lookin jordan
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Well after reading that , its a high chance of the block is warped/cracked if it was roasted badly
 
looks like its gettin ripped apart 1 last time! see if there is anything wrong with the block! its always 1 thing after another! only had the car 4 weeks aha
 
Hi lad it could be the oil cooler.. that would put oil though the water.. if i was u get a compression test done on it..
get it looked at..
 
most likely - is there white smoke even when warmed up?

A compression test will really help you out here mate, i see its already been mentioned too.


and i read this earlier in the thread too
martinmck06 said:
thinkin of scrappin the car soon! its a shame because its a lovely lookin jordan
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i'll take it if its lovely, i'll pay you scrap money for it.

if the blocks fkd all it will take is £600-700 on a replacement b16a2
 
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Dude let me know if you decide to get rid I'll have a load of parts of you! Or I'll buy the car :)
 
Sorry to hear about your issue.
Have your mechanic inspect what he/she did, as said above, it may be left over crap that he/she may have forgot to clean out of the water/coolant jacket from prior.

Dont give up yet on the car/engine.
 
a was lookin at it just there! the car is warm now and there is white smoke with a touch of blue cuming through it?
doing a pressure test 2moro so i wil let use know how i get on cheers
 
White Smoke: white smoke is caused by water and or antifreeze entering the cylinder, and the engine trying to burn it with the fuel. The white smoke is steam. There are special gaskets (head gaskets are the primary gaskets) that keep the antifreeze from entering the cylinder area. The cylinder is where the fuel and air mixture are being compressed and burned. Any amount of antifreeze that enters this area will produce a white steam that will be present at the tailpipe area.

If white smoke is present, check to see if the proper amount of antifreeze is inside the radiator and the overflow bottle. Also check to see if antifreeze has contaminated the engine oil. You can look at the engine oil dipstick, or look at the under side of the engine oil filler cap. If the oil is contaminated with antifreeze, it will have the appearance of a chocolate milkshake. Do not start the engine if the oil is contaminated with antifreeze, as serious internal engine damage can result.

How did antifreeze get in the oil or cylinder in the first place? The engine probably overheated and a head gasket failed due to excessive heat, thus allowing antifreeze to enter the cylinder (Where it is not meant to be).

Blue Smoke: Blue smoke is caused by engine oil entering the cylinder area and being burned along with the fuel air mixture. As with the white smoke, just a small drop of oil leaking into the cylinder can produce blue smoke out the tailpipe. Blue smoke is more likely in older or higher mileage vehicles than newer cars with fewer miles.

How did the engine oil get inside the cylinder in the first place? The car has many seals, gaskets, and O-rings that are designed to keep the engine oil from entering the cylinder, and one of them has failed. If too much oil leaks into the cylinder and fouls the spark plug, it will cause a misfire (engine miss) in that cylinder, and the spark plug will have to be replaced or cleaned of the oil. Using thicker weight engine oil or an oil additive designed to reduce oil leaks might help reduce the amount of oil leaking into the cylinder.

Black Smoke: Black smoke is caused by excess fuel that has entered the cylinder area and cannot be burned completely. Another term for excess fuel is "running rich." Poor fuel mileage is also a common complaint when black smoke comes out of the tailpipe. Black smoke out the tailpipe is the least cause for alarm. Excess fuel will usually effect engine performance, reduce fuel economy, and produce a fuel odor.

How did the fuel get into the cylinder in the first place? Some of the causes of excess fuel are a carburetor that is out of adjustment, a faulty fuel pump, a leaky fuel injector, or a faulty engine computer or computer sensor. If black smoke is present, check the engine oil as in the white smoke example to make sure excess fuel has not contaminated it. Do not start the engine if a heavy, raw fuel smell can be detected in the engine oil. Call your mechanic and advise him of what you have found.

I hope this helps you determine what could be causing your engine smoke, and the possible reasons behind the smoke.
 
Defo sounds like your still burning coolant, get the compression test done and you will find out roughly what cylinders your leak is at (or if there is a leak).

Get the head back off it and get someone you can trust to check over the block & head, you never know it might be something simple.

If you find the problem and its with the block (or even a fked head) rather than any more expensive labour or machine shop work, find a replacement engine and work out whats going to cost you less to get the car running again (make sure the replacement engine is properly checked over).
 
just got news from the garage that they done a pressure test and the head is cracked! will i be better tryin to get ahold of another b16a2 or a head of an ek9? will this make much of a difference?
 
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