How to change brake fluid and bleed brakes?


Ashy C

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After a few track days my brakes have become a little spongey and i'm wanting to change the fluid and bleed the brakes, BUT........

I have no idea on how to do this, would someone be so kind as to explain how. I've done a search but couldn't find a guide on how to do it.

What fluid should i use? RBF660

Many Thanks
 
honda brake fluid p/n 08203-99931 HE

I'm guessing you want to replace your fluid yourself instead of taking your car to repair shop. If so you'll still need a friend to help.
1) Have your friend apply pressure to the brake pedal.
2) Loosen the front right caliper bleeder screw. Remove about 1/4 of a liter of fluid. (Make sure to maintain brake pedal pressure during bleeding).
3) Tighten caliper bleeder screw.
4) Remove brake pedal pressure.
5) Top off brake fluid level with new fluid.
6) Repeat steps 1-5 on front left caliper, then rear right, then rear left. In that order.

bleeder screw picture-http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/fishexpo101/Bleeding%20brakes/bleeder_screw_2.jpg
 
Cheers buddy that's just what I was after, was thinking about going for some 5.1 fluid, is there a different process when changing grades of fluid?

Cheers
 
I recommend not switching to 5.1. It has the advantage of a higher boiling point, but I don't think you should have to worry too much. If you do decide to replace your fluid with 5.1, know that it is silicone based. This will require you to replace most of your brake system. Mostly due to the seals swelling and eventually becoming incompetent.
 
DOT 5.1 is not silicon based, it is a higher boiling point meant for DOT3/DOT4 brake systems. DOT5 is silicon based and cannot be mixed. The silicon in it can affect some of the rubber parts and may not have the correct addetives to condition the rubber seals on the piston and MC.

Here is a tip while bleeding. Run your bleeder hose up through your springs. Open the bleeder. Now air/fluid may come out, but bubbles will go to the top, and if you release the brake pedal while bleeding, it can suck in only fluid. This way you can bleed your brakes yourself.
Attach the bleeder hose to the valve, run the hose up through the spring, and down into something. Release the bleeder. Now fluid may come out, but air will not be introduced back into the system. You can now walk to your brake pedal yourself and pump it about 15 times (keep adding fluid to the master cylinder, you don't want to let the fluid level go too low because it could introduce air into the system on that side.) I've done this many times, and now you can bleed the car yourself. It can also save time because you don't open the bleeder multiple times.

DOT4 fluid obsoletes DOT3, its a higher boiling point, so DOT4 fluid is fine. The plus is that you can get stuff like DOT4 Valvoline Syntec for 7 bucks a quart at a local Autozone, so its very effective and its cheap. There are 4 and 5.1 fluids for racing, but some get upto 100$ a pint, and for the extra few degrees, its not worth it for street driving, thats more a race only thing.
 
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