**Rigid Collar kit** Spoon.


danbo2002

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cheeky 8 year bump!

Surely people can give some reviews on the spoon and other brands by now?

I put my subframe on the other day with all the bolts in place but not fully tight and the amount of movement is ridiculous, looks about 5mm on each bolt!

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I have these…. Both sets front and rear

difference before and after was…
car settles much faster going over bumps or uneven ground, it’s hard to explain, think of it this way, imagine going over 1 big bump in the road, after you’ve hit it, let’s say the car rebounds up and down 3 or 4 times before it’s truly settled again, well after installing the collars those rebounds are less… this effect is in every situation though, there’s a stretch of bypass close to me that I always drive, it has a dip in the road as it goes over/joins a bridge, my old daily and my FD2 sort of skip over it as you go over it at about 70/80mph, they rebound up and down at least 4 times before the car truly settles again. In the EK9 it rebounds once and it’s dealt with and back settled again, same in any situ really if the car is kind of skipping about
The car in general also just feels a bit tighter overall, chassis doesn’t creak and squeak as much since installing them which is an added bonus I was not expecting
 


Kipper

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I use subframe collars in the Racecar and the main benefit I've found is keeping the geometry closer to where it's supposed to be when using the curbs and what not since the lower arms are bolted to the subframe. If the subframe can move a few mm's then so can the lower arms.
 


civicx3

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I have these…. Both sets front and rear

difference before and after was…
car settles much faster going over bumps or uneven ground, it’s hard to explain, think of it this way, imagine going over 1 big bump in the road, after you’ve hit it, let’s say the car rebounds up and down 3 or 4 times before it’s truly settled again, well after installing the collars those rebounds are less… this effect is in every situation though, there’s a stretch of bypass close to me that I always drive, it has a dip in the road as it goes over/joins a bridge, my old daily and my FD2 sort of skip over it as you go over it at about 70/80mph, they rebound up and down at least 4 times before the car truly settles again. In the EK9 it rebounds once and it’s dealt with and back settled again, same in any situ really if the car is kind of skipping about
The car in general also just feels a bit tighter overall, chassis doesn’t creak and squeak as much since installing them which is an added bonus I was not expecting

You went with the spoon im guessing? Where are the rear ones placed? I was looking at the rear trailing arm and the 2 bolts that go through the bush seems like another area for a lot of movement

Spoon did a test in this video and it sounds like what you're describing with the bumps

Spoon Rigid Collar Installation, Can This Small Collar Change the Handling?

I use subframe collars in the Racecar and the main benefit I've found is keeping the geometry closer to where it's supposed to be when using the curbs and what not since the lower arms are bolted to the subframe. If the subframe can move a few mm's then so can the lower arms.

this is what im thinking too, its all unwanted movement

which brand did you use?
 

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danbo2002

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Yes, I went with the Spoon ones
4 collars in the rear kit, they are for the 4 bolt holes at the rta bush like you’ve mentioned
 


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