0-60 YAY or NAH

[ManosEK9]

my ek9 has a gearbox and engine internals with bolt on mods, makes a proven 197 bhp @ the fly and has been timed at 0-60 in 6.1 seconds and is'nt stripped either

Can I ask: What was the car mileage when you made the measurement(roughly)? What tire dimensions you used? And also, where do you live?
Thanks.

 

[Danny_B16B_R]

Man all this talk of the Ek9 Cant wit to get mine!

 

[elmo]

I got a 0-100kmph of 5.49 seconds in mine

few small mods and a 4.9 final drive

 

[b16bleigh]

no mate it was with with my 4.785 final drive

 

[cormy]

I've a bit of work done to mine n its roughly bout 6 secs but we sort of have the weather for it in ireland!!

 

[vtec]

Can I ask: What was the car mileage when you made the measurement(roughly)? What tire dimensions you used? And also, where do you live?
Thanks.

This was timed on proper time trial equitment doing several runs, i live in the uk,i run 195/50/15'' yokohama prada spec 2 semi slicks the car has 55,000 miles on the clock,it runs 197 bhp @ the fly with good quality breathing mods ,the engine has been leak down tested +compression tested and is in very good health, 95% on leak down test on engine ,so whats wrong dude do you not belive any ONE on this forum ??or do you not understand that ek9's are awesome lol

 

[ManosEK9]

so whats wrong dude do you not belive any ONE on this forum ??or do you not understand that ek9's are awesome lol

I don't understand what you mean by saying that i do not believe any ONE here. To believe what?? I own an EK9 and its awesome mate, the argument here is not wether the car its good or not, but if its able to make 0-60 mph in 5.7 secs being stock which i really doubt because I believe that Honda made its best to manage that time.......
You have already mentioned that you have important mods that make decent difference, stock wheels dimensions(you cheat a bit with 50mm instead of 55mm stock ), you have excellent engine condition and you have tested your car in UK(most probably in cold condition, i suppose less than 30 degrees celsius) and still you made 6.1. Now suppose that you were stock and/or in a hotter climate like me, you definitely were going to make at least 6.5 secs. What you said is just another clue for me mate.
Now I'm sure you got my point!!

 

[Neo]

look Manos has spoken, truth is i get sick listening to his drivel and nonsense in just about every post, he thinks he knows all ALWAYS... ive given up arguing with his as he thinks hes always RIGHT, the other admins are also a bit sick of him but hey i suppose..........................

Manos you know my EK9 better than i do it seems, yet its me who owns n drives it, i can get under 6 seconds and so can others on here so why YET AGAIN i may add do you decide you know otherwise?

 

[b16bleigh]

 

[JayH]

I dont get the reasoning on this thread dealing with octane. To the best of my understanding, a b16b is 10.8:1 compression, so why would something like japanese 100 octane be any better than british 95? I would think 95 octane is fine for 10.8:1 compression. I dont know about ethanol ratings in the UK but in parts of the US there is ethanol in the gas, which hurts performance just a little bit. And you guys are right, honda would test in the very best conditions possible with a brand new ek9. In the dead of summer with a high mileage stock ek9 you arent going to get the same numbers.

Ah, true. Octane would be the wrong measurement for the fuel's performance. Its just in my place its generally perceived that the 'high octane' fuel in Japan gives more power and is commonly referred to for its quality, hence my mistaken reference. Its indeed the fuel composition that matters, my bad.

I believe there is a probable correlation with octane and fuel performance in most places though.

 

[ManosEK9]

look Manos has spoken, truth is i get sick listening to his drivel and nonsense in just about every post, he thinks he knows all ALWAYS... ive given up arguing with his as he thinks hes always RIGHT, the other admins are also a bit sick of him but hey i suppose..........................

Manos you know my EK9 better than i do it seems, yet its me who owns n drives it, i can get under 6 seconds and so can others on here so why YET AGAIN i may add do you decide you know otherwise?

Look mate, I'm not accusing anyone here or claiming that you or anyone is lying ok? I'm just saying what I believe and what I see around me either you like it or not, I will always say my facts and I'm not lying to anybody!!
As for your time, I believe you, but you have already said that your car is stripped out, so why don't you put everything back and post the video that you promised so to make me shut up as I promised??
And Neo, if you get sick of people who debate with you, then mate you have a serious problem and you should do something about this, otherwise things might get worse.
Hey RVM, its just enough for me to send me a PM to confirm that you the site admimistrators agree that through my posts, I misinform people, or lying, or overreacting or fighting on purpose with others or whatever......and then I will close my account by my self, you don't even have to bann me

 

[simone]

Come on folks, we all know that the EK9 is a special kind of car and lets all get along altogether, as there is already to much hate in this world

Please read the following link to the original magazine article, as this is the EK9 in question with the 0-60 mph in 5.7 sec's

http://www.honda.org.uk/honda_integ...e_r/honda_integra_type_r_vs_civic_type_r.html

That particular EK9 was in fact a Race Base version

I've even got a picture here at home with my old ITR parked next to this EK9 in the pit garages at Donnington Park.

When I last sit in this EK9, it had red momo seats replacing the std Race Base factory Honda seats.

If any of you guys have previously attended the annual Honda Rev's meet at Gaydon, then you would have seen this special EK9 parked up.

Lets not get carried away with stats! Does it really matter???

What matters to me is the big grin/smile that a particular car can puts on my face after a little drive

You can even have a right hoot in little shopping trolleys like a 20 year old, 1 litre nissan micras

 

[Neo]

I will close my account by my self, you don't even have to bann me

Manos i dunno if theres maybe a language thing between us, for one i dont want you to leave the site, its just many times something is said you seem to have other views or ideas on it etc, maybe you dont mean it the way it comes accross but sometimes it seems your having a go at others or claiming they are telling some lies or something

As i say im not saying you are intentionally doing this, or i am reading it wrong, but its how it seems sometimes, thats what was annoying me

I apologies if this isnt the case and like i said i dont want you to leave the site

 

[rvm]

ManosEK9, chill out man, this is a forum, and everyone can express what ever they want freely, and of course you will not be banned or anything, just keep participating in the forum, thanks

 

[Dino-Spumoni]

The 0-60 argument is quite heated, but for no real reason. Its only a manufacturer and magazine benchmark to compare one model of car's accelleration to another. Its not like anyone races against their friends from 0 to 60 mph, its just a number you never really use in the real world. Of all the motorsports and even car to car grudge matches nobody uses 0-60 times, 1/4 mile at the stip or lap times around a course are much more accurate.
Even if you did time your self in your own car with a stopwatch, there are too many variables IMO for it to be accurate, like speedometer accuracy, if you changed wheel or tire size from stock, stopwatch user accuracy, ect. For a correct 0-60 time measure you would need accurate GPS or radar equipment, just like magazines or vehicle manufacturers have. Once again its just a comparison benchmark.
And many are not aware, but most production car gearboxes have compromised gearing so that the 2-3 upshift is right after 60 mph, so that the shift doesnt cut into the 0-60 time, and the time is .2 seconds or so faster. Compromising this gearing so that the 2-3 shift is always right after 60mph doesnt match most engines optimum powerbands or gearbox types (some 6 speeds are geared with the 2-3 shift at 60mph despite having that exta gear)

 

[vtecroadhog]

ek9's 0-60 faster than any other stock 1.6 by far...

manos no need to leave site!.. we all hve our points of views due to many diff reasons... and we all luv our Honda's.

 

[Adam_83]

Manos dont leave the site

iu feel a bit responsible for this mess up as i started the thread

so sorry to all for starting this

but thankyou to all for their input you guys really know your stuff

NEO MANOS RVM and others thanks

 

[rvm]

Manos dont leave the site

iu feel a bit responsible for this mess up as i started the thread

so sorry to all for starting this

but thankyou to all for their input you guys really know your stuff

NEO MANOS RVM and others thanks

I'm glad we were able to help you, dont worry Manos is part of EK9.org inventory lol

 

[iceman]

0-60 talk is best left to the kids, hondas have never been built for launching of the line, if thats what your into then get yourself a boosted rwd or 4wd car but if you want fun all round then ek9 it is

the whole 5.7 sec came from 1 test done many years ago (know the prev owner of that car who is 1 of the best and nicest people i know in the car scene and as a person in general), if its right its just a freak time that no one has ever got since with a stock ek9

someone posted they got under 6 secs with with semi slicks, 5mm less rolling radius and some mods but thats far from stock so no comparison

mods to gear ratios do make huge difference in accelertion, been in itr with mugen diff and 4.9 fd, nightmare for daily use but man did it accelarate

its the 1 mod on my wish list

 

[rvm]

0-60 talk is best left to the kids, hondas have never been built for launching of the line, if thats what your into then get yourself a boosted rwd or 4wd car but if you want fun all round then ek9 it is

the whole 5.7 sec came from 1 test done many years ago (know the prev owner of that car who is 1 of the best and nicest people i know in the car scene and as a person in general), if its right its just a freak time that no one has ever got since with a stock ek9

someone posted they got under 6 secs with with semi slicks, 5mm less rolling radius and some mods but thats far from stock so no comparison

mods to gear ratios do make huge difference in accelertion, been in itr with mugen diff and 4.9 fd, nightmare for daily use but man did it accelarate

its the 1 mod on my wish list

Don't you think a 4.9 final drive will affect too much the top speed?