Anybody got a supercharged 9-ek?


SK1992

SK1992

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Just been having a think lately about more power not gonna drop a b18-k20 or dont really wont a turbo as i dont want mad power and it blowing up or anything but been doing a lil reserch but wont something low boost just bolt on and safe on stock internals... Alot of you are gonna say just turbo but are there any supercharged 9s on here? Cheers. Also any good supercharger kits about i been speaking to hond-r they are just finishing a supercharger kit for the ek9 still a prototype but its rotex based.
 
I'd go out on a limb and say supercharge is just as unreliable and likely to destroy the engine as a turbo would be.
I mean if it's mapped properly and nothing strange happens(like mine) then can't see why it wouldn't last tbh
 
But i just wont a simple low boost build and dont want to change much so im stuck on what to do and wont more power and i dont know where to start with a turbo build... dont wont to spend loads... Was just thinking get a c's roots charger or something bolt on and map with my s300 but god knows lol im a noob with boost and all that need some help
 
Honestly, do it cheap and you'll most likely be doing it twice.
If you've not got the money or know how then don't play the game...
Sounds harsh but when it goes wrong it's hard work lol

boost on a supercharger is peaky, basically max boost is at max rpm. So your low boost at max rpm will be nearly non existent boost at lower RPMs...
Makes me think what's the point?
 
Nah its not harsh im just learning lol il get my head around it soon but money plays a part.. But if you can gain like 200+whp then thats plenty and no lag so to have more low down power than a stock b16b then its a decent gain i would of thought thats what id be haply with... Im not in a rush for anymore power right now just keeping my options open for when i wanna spend some money, if i could throw a supercharger on and a good tune rather then uprate internals etc for a turbo then anything around 200whp and safe would be a winner
 
You don't need to forge the engine to turbocharge any more than you do supercharge.
Look at my new block, stock b18c4. How long it will last is questionable but then look what was happening with my forged blocks.
You need money to play this game because it never goes to plan and almost everything is expensive!
Don't want to sound off but 200whp is what 240hp? Honestly you'll get bored quick and you'll still get stiff competition by a proper b18 or bolt ons a k20....
 
jesse888 said:
You need money to play this game because it never goes to plan and almost everything is expensive!
Don't want to sound off but 200whp is what 240hp? Honestly you'll get bored quick and you'll still get stiff competition by a proper b18 or bolt ons a k20....
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Yes you need money to initially boost the car, much like you need the money to K swap it. but the way you are saying it is all wrong. Things do go to plan. My build did?
And a 240 hp boosted car will still have the legs on a 240hp b18. Torque is king.

SK1992, it will probably work out cheaper and better going low blow turbo. How many supercharger kits do you see for a b16b? And when they do come up, they are serious money.
Supercharge or turbocharge can both have the same catastrophic effects to the engine. its all in the setup, parts and tune.
 
My experience with all turbocharged cars is trouble..
Even factory turbo engines are a pain in the arse from my experience.
He can listen to all the happy stories and hope that's him or you can plan for the worst and make sure you can cover it should it happen.
He's already said he wants cheap, its that standard question again

Cheap
Reliable
Fast

Pick 2....

In all honesty I wished I'd gone k20 for a long time and still do to an extent. The amount of tracktime I've lost and money I've thrown at this thing is mental! I chose to boost because it was cheaper and more gain, I got lucky that I found a new career in time to be able to fix these issues. If i was still a warehouseman earning nearly half what I earn now I wouldn't have my ek9...

What I'm saying is don't expect smooth sailing. Easier said than done.
 
It can be done on the cheap, 2nd hand quality parts. When I 1st went low boost turbo, I reckon I spent less than 1500 bucks, and half of that was the 2nd hand turbo, everything else was bought new. It put out 230bhp on a conservative tune.
I was lucky when I first bought my turbo charger years ago. It was 2nd hand but brand new, as the previous owner hadn't used it. It was also built and bought from Turbotechnics so easy to get fixed if it ever went wrong.(it never did)

Most of the horror stories are from built engines failing or stock engines being pushed past there limits. Low blow setups rarely have issues.
Ive had a engine let go on me, it was my fault it went. Learned from it and the 2nd engine is still here.

When I 1st boosted my car, cheap and reliable. Wasn't the quickest, but held its own
Went forged and up'd the boost. Fast and reliable, wasn't cheap.
 
I wish I had your luck lol
Some random component failure in the b16b that still is undiagnosed.
Multiple failures on the forged blocks, still undiagnosed.
Hoping the cheap c4 block can be reliable now.
The limit on them seems abit vague, some say 350 some say 400? Tbh mine won't see 350 all that often mainly 300ish I think.
 
jesse888 said:
I wish I had your luck lol
Some random component failure in the b16b that still is undiagnosed.
Multiple failures on the forged blocks, still undiagnosed.
Hoping the cheap c4 block can be reliable now.
The limit on them seems abit vague, some say 350 some say 400? Tbh mine won't see 350 all that often mainly 300ish I think.
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I did forget to put luck in my post haha.
Hopefully it will be more reliable and you should start to enjoy the car again.
 
Yeah I think my run of poor luck(and judgment in some cases tbh) has made me abit skeptical of boosted builds.

Been out in it just now, it's a weapon when it works and the best car I'll probably ever own.
Going to compression test the block and see what I get, then I've got a baseline for later on. Pulls nice enough so...
 
I know jess mate i agree its a money pit and i do wont reliablity for track days and stuff but no matter what if i wont more power i got to spend big but atm just dont know what i wont... just see what happands over the next few months
 
I thought that supercharging is more reliable on stock engines because you don't get boost spikes and that you can run more compression, but in saying that most modern cars are turbo but have the money and time to get the mapping perfect, I would agree with the comments above always budget more money than you first thought.

PS goautoworks do a supercharger kit for the b series.
 
I don't know why people think K swap is more expensive than charging an engine. From my point of view it is hard to beat - OEM reliability, lighter engine, loads of parts now available second hand, tons of know how on the internet and you still have your old engine / gearbox and all other bits to sell after you are done. Surely there's no way a charger will be cheaper?
 
I have never said k swap is more costly but its what you wont and being diffrent is what i wont to do everybody is going k swap and most companys wont 7k for the whole lot and fitted and bare in mind i wont be doing none of the work myself... So 7k is just silly money when i could spend 7k on a big turbo build and i dont wont crazy power so i got around 4k to spend on a low boost charger/turbo till i want to take to the next stage and forge it.... But wont some reliability for the time being..
 
Ah fair play, I thought you wanted the charger because it was "cheap", which it certainly isn't. Each to their own, if that's what you want then by all means go ahead, but would it not be easier to buy a different car? For me building is part of the fun which is why I mod the 9, but if I didn't want to do the work myself and wanted more power I'd just buy either already charged 9 or a different car altogether. If you however have a minter you want to keep then get the wallet out and start ordering whatever you need for the build!
 
I know what your saying mate but i cannot get rid she is a minter and she is deffo worth doing as its a fine example so need to sort something out and start saving lol il get something sorted just need some help along the way.
 
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