Do most ek's have this problem?

[tama666]

Would love to see pics of this being done...riv nut installed like this.

 

[Gorbash12346]

We use riv nuts to resecure e46 320CD exhaust hangers drill through a major stuctural part of the rear subframe to fit them. They work really well but with this being a suspension structural point i'm not sure if their up to the job, you could potentially weaken the area of metal where it mounts to, not to mention you'd need to be absolutely spot on compressing them as it's really easy for them to distort if the metal your securing to isn't quite stiff/ thick enough.

for something like this i'd rather go with blinx's suggestion it'll hurt but that way it's done right and no headaches later down the line

 

[JDM 101]

Try using a hand tap and rethread the welded nuts.

 

[blinx9900]

We use riv nuts to resecure e46 320CD exhaust hangers drill through a major stuctural part of the rear subframe to fit them. They work really well but with this being a suspension structural point i'm not sure if their up to the job, you could potentially weaken the area of metal where it mounts to, not to mention you'd need to be absolutely spot on compressing them as it's really easy for them to distort if the metal your securing to isn't quite stiff/ thick enough.

for something like this i'd rather go with blinx's suggestion it'll hurt but that way it's done right and no headaches later down the line

yeah, it sure did hurt to cut all that open but my tuner took care of this and he is an ace welder so i trusted him and it came out perfect!! he didn't even charge me

 

[UwishUcould158]

Same design on the engine torque mount.

A friend had to cut a window to hold a new nut.

This one seems to be worse to fix.

Good luck !

this happen to me with a torque mount had to cut it open

 

[raidacaipo]

UPDATE!!

I finally fixed it. Heres how you do it:

Order some rivnuts either m10x1.25 (asian) or m10x1.50 (European)
I got these from a seller on ebay all the way from Europe and it cost me $16 US with shipping. Comes in a 25 pack but all you need is 2 rivnuts. Thanks alot and would recommend ordering from them!

Next, get some bolts to match the rivnuts. Again if you got m10x1.25 then get m10x1.25 bolts. Make sure they are high graded. These are grade/class 10.9 bolts so they're very strong. Got them Autozone for about $2.

After that your going to need to drill out the holes a bit more from your civic walls so that the rivnuts could easily go into but fit snuggly.
(I just used a regular drill bit and went around the hole until the rivnuts were able to fit inside)

After the holes are big enough, test fit it with the rivnuts just to make sure they go in.
(don't hammer them in, you dont want bent rivnuts otherwise your bolts won't go in properly)

Next, get a ratchet or breaker bar with a size 15 socket metric or size 14 depending on your bolt. Also get a long extension so that you are able to torque the bolts easily.

Also a bar to hold the handle for more leverage if you don't have a breaker bar

Now what you do is you seat the rivnut onto the camber arm and the bolts to get it ready.

Put them into the holes and make sure they fit flush before you go and tighten them down.

Now you can tighten them down. Torque it down just enough so that the rivnuts stop spinning. Don't over tighten.

After loosen up the bolts and check your work.

Heres what happens to the rivnuts as you tighten them down onto the wall.

VIOLA! Put everything back together as usual. Remember to always put the 2 bolts on the wall first and tighten those down before you put the long 14mm bolt on from the bottom.

Problem fixed.

 

[tama666]

Nice repair! Good job on documenting this fix too!
The last picture of the rivet nut collapsing really illustrates how the part works.

Please let me/us know of any issues when you inspect it later.

Simple but perfect fix!

 

[GTLVR82]

What an outstanding thread! I'm interested to know if this is safe for race-style stressing. I'm going to be swapping out my rear upper arms soon for a camber kit and this exact problem has been on my mind since I purchased the kit.

 

[tama666]

What an outstanding thread! I'm interested to know if this is safe for race-style stressing. I'm going to be swapping out my rear upper arms soon for a camber kit and this exact problem has been on my mind since I purchased the kit.

GTLVR82
This looks as good if not better than stock for strength. More surface area connecting it to the body of the car, instead of the spot welds from Honda.

Honda should have done this instead of what is currently seen on these civics.

 

[stevenEK9]

2 things.....

Hope you greased up the bolt threads loads in final installation?

After all that effort, why fit the standard arms back on? Surely would have been better to fit some adjustable arms to make the work a bit more worthwhile?!


Good effort though, hope the rivnuts hold up

 

[Lynch]

so did you torque this down to factory specs?

and yeah, why did you put the oem arms back on?

 

[EkRon]

Haven't come across that problem yet mate!

 

[GTLVR82]

GTLVR82
This looks as good if not better than stock for strength. More surface area connecting it to the body of the car, instead of the spot welds from Honda.

Honda should have done this instead of what is currently seen on these civics.

Roger that....I'll check in with my engineer buddy to see if he concurs.

 

[raidacaipo]

so did you torque this down to factory specs?

and yeah, why did you put the oem arms back on?

Oh because thats all I had but Ill upgrade later on. And I did not torque it down. I dont know the specs. Does anyone know?

 

[raidacaipo]

2 things.....

Hope you greased up the bolt threads loads in final installation?

After all that effort, why fit the standard arms back on? Surely would have been better to fit some adjustable arms to make the work a bit more worthwhile?!


Good effort though, hope the rivnuts hold up

I actually havent greased the bolt threads but you can do it if you like. I put the standard arms back because thats all I had and I was willing to go out and test drive it. So far so good. No problems.

 

[raidacaipo]

GTLVR82
This looks as good if not better than stock for strength. More surface area connecting it to the body of the car, instead of the spot welds from Honda.

Honda should have done this instead of what is currently seen on these civics.

I think so too. Or at least honda should have made an area to access the back of the nut just incase the welded nut breaks loose.

 

[tama666]

2x ^^