what do you guys think to these
cheap way to upgrade ek4 brakes??
MeisterR 286mm BigDisk Brake Upgrade (Front) - £249.00 : CyberSpeeds
cheap way to upgrade ek4 brakes??
MeisterR 286mm BigDisk Brake Upgrade (Front) - £249.00 : CyberSpeeds
meister 286mm upgrade
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Of course it would be nice to have bigger brake pistons. But the weak point of the VTI brakes is the disc size, not the caliper. So it's a nice upgrade if you look at what good discs and pads cost. It will probably cost you about the same, only you have no bracket then and smaller discs
its just for the front brakes
MeisterR
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Right, thought I come in a give a bit of info.
The 286mm upgrade are designed for any Honda Civic with the standard 262mm brake system.
As said above that the weakness in the standard 262mm Honda brake system is the size of the disk are not large enough release the heat generated from hard usages.
This kit are design to work in conjunction with the standard 240mm rear disks.
This kit did not change to a caliper with larger piston and therefore did not heavily shift brake bias to the front.
What this mean is you do not need to use the larger 1" master cylinder to maintain brake paddle travel either.
The brake disk is a special cast design to work with this brake kit.
The kit use the standard Vti brake pad so you CAN use other brake pad with this brake upgrade if you like.
The kit also use a brand new caliper carrier instead of a bolt on bridge with the standard caliper carrier like other cheaper brake kit.
This maintain strength and ensure that the fitment will be perfect everytime.
The 286mm disk is made out of a high performance alloy, and it is design to withstand race pad temperature.
The material itself will withstand 900C, which is rated above most race pad temperature anyways.
The Vane of the disk is "Pillar Vane".
This type of disk provide a hugh improvement over the OE "Straight Vane" Disk.
This is the same style of vane Brembo use on most of their OE application such as EVO, WRX, etc.
They are stronger, and are able to dispense heat faster than straight vane design.
Pillar Vane disk also have a odd characteristic (though undocumented) of straightening themselves out if they are warp.
You hear very often where warp Brembo disk on EVO straighten themselves out after getting red hot again...
Overall, the 286mm are design to be an effective bolt on solution for brake upgrade.
The quality of the disk are not available in most OE replacement disks and everything are ready to fit out of the box with no grinding needed.
The 286mm upgrade are designed for any Honda Civic with the standard 262mm brake system.
As said above that the weakness in the standard 262mm Honda brake system is the size of the disk are not large enough release the heat generated from hard usages.
This kit are design to work in conjunction with the standard 240mm rear disks.
This kit did not change to a caliper with larger piston and therefore did not heavily shift brake bias to the front.
What this mean is you do not need to use the larger 1" master cylinder to maintain brake paddle travel either.
The brake disk is a special cast design to work with this brake kit.
The kit use the standard Vti brake pad so you CAN use other brake pad with this brake upgrade if you like.
The kit also use a brand new caliper carrier instead of a bolt on bridge with the standard caliper carrier like other cheaper brake kit.
This maintain strength and ensure that the fitment will be perfect everytime.
The 286mm disk is made out of a high performance alloy, and it is design to withstand race pad temperature.
The material itself will withstand 900C, which is rated above most race pad temperature anyways.
The Vane of the disk is "Pillar Vane".
This type of disk provide a hugh improvement over the OE "Straight Vane" Disk.
This is the same style of vane Brembo use on most of their OE application such as EVO, WRX, etc.
They are stronger, and are able to dispense heat faster than straight vane design.
Pillar Vane disk also have a odd characteristic (though undocumented) of straightening themselves out if they are warp.
You hear very often where warp Brembo disk on EVO straighten themselves out after getting red hot again...
Overall, the 286mm are design to be an effective bolt on solution for brake upgrade.
The quality of the disk are not available in most OE replacement disks and everything are ready to fit out of the box with no grinding needed.
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Right, thought I come in a give a bit of info.
The 286mm upgrade are designed for any Honda Civic with the standard 262mm brake system.
As said above that the weakness in the standard 262mm Honda brake system is the size of the disk are not large enough release the heat generated from hard usages.
This kit are design to work in conjunction with the standard 240mm rear disks.
This kit did not change to a caliper with larger piston and therefore did not heavily shift brake bias to the front.
What this mean is you do not need to use the larger 1" master cylinder to maintain brake paddle travel either.
The brake disk is a special cast design to work with this brake kit.
The kit use the standard Vti brake pad so you CAN use other brake pad with this brake upgrade if you like.
The kit also use a brand new caliper carrier instead of a bolt on bridge with the standard caliper carrier like other cheaper brake kit.
This maintain strength and ensure that the fitment will be perfect everytime.
The 286mm disk is made out of a high performance alloy, and it is design to withstand race pad temperature.
The material itself will withstand 900C, which is rated above most race pad temperature anyways.
The Vane of the disk is "Pillar Vane".
This type of disk provide a hugh improvement over the OE "Straight Vane" Disk.
This is the same style of vane Brembo use on most of their OE application such as EVO, WRX, etc.
They are stronger, and are able to dispense heat faster than straight vane design.
Pillar Vane disk also have a odd characteristic (though undocumented) of straightening themselves out if they are warp.
You hear very often where warp Brembo disk on EVO straighten themselves out after getting red hot again...
Overall, the 286mm are design to be an effective bolt on solution for brake upgrade.
The quality of the disk are not available in most OE replacement disks and everything are ready to fit out of the box with no grinding needed.
What are the 286mm discs off or are they spacificaly for this kit?
How much are new replacement discs?
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Guys, at this moment I am not a trader on EK9.org, therefore I am here purely as information basis as I would like to help out rather it is about MeisterR products or not.
I always like to follow the rules and regulation set out by the admin/mod.
If you have any specific question that you would like to ask me, please feel free to E-mail me.
The 286mm disk in this conversion are not off of any other cars, they are specifically casted for this kit.
That is why it will have the right sweep area for the brake pad, and the disk are specially made with "pillar vane" to increase its performance.
I haven't need any replacement disk yet but I would say they will be around the £180 mark... which is in line with most quality disk.
With that said, the disk are made of a much denser alloy and is heat treated so therefore it will last quite a bit longer then your off the shelf OE replacement disk.
I always like to follow the rules and regulation set out by the admin/mod.
If you have any specific question that you would like to ask me, please feel free to E-mail me.
The 286mm disk in this conversion are not off of any other cars, they are specifically casted for this kit.
That is why it will have the right sweep area for the brake pad, and the disk are specially made with "pillar vane" to increase its performance.
I haven't need any replacement disk yet but I would say they will be around the £180 mark... which is in line with most quality disk.
With that said, the disk are made of a much denser alloy and is heat treated so therefore it will last quite a bit longer then your off the shelf OE replacement disk.
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Im probly going to get a set of these soon, heard good thigns on civic life
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are these still available???
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Anyone upgrading from 262s to 282s should do the rear brakes too otherwise you decrease braking peformance as the 282s are a fair whack more powerful than the 262s and system becomes unbalanced, and your rear brakes do a lot more than you might think!
The 260mm rears are more than adequate for most aftermarket upgrades (Wilwoods, ATRs etc) as the stock 282 caliper is actually quite powerful but the 240mms are well underpowered for anything other than the 262s.
Not really a consideration for the MeisterR kit as it is more about heat dissipation than increasing the total braking force.
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Anyone upgrading from 262s to 282s should do the rear brakes too otherwise you decrease braking peformance as the 282s are a fair whack more powerful than the 262s and system becomes unbalanced, and your rear brakes do a lot more than you might think!
The 260mm rears are more than adequate for most aftermarket upgrades (Wilwoods, ATRs etc) as the stock 282 caliper is actually quite powerful but the 240mms are well underpowered for anything other than the 262s.
Not really a consideration for the MeisterR kit as it is more about heat dissipation than increasing the total braking force.
Smart man ^