Want to upgrade my front calipers , again


that_civic

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Hi,

I have dc2 282s upfront but are looking like they need a rebuild as they're sticking, so thought why not upgrade again since I'll eventually be going for a rotrex k20 so best to upgrade before then. Yes the integra calipers are more than capable and a good pad will stop easily enough in a light chassis etc etc but like I said they'll need rebuilding so want to see what other options I have.

So far I know to keep my disc size I have prelude/legend twin pots and spoons.

If I go for the twin pots, do I aid in better braking, how easy is the swap , can I re use the brake lines I'm currently running ?

From what I've read spoons are a straight swap, but I can't justify paying the price on spoons.


Any advice, ideas tips and tricks will be much appreciated.
 


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There's a lot of info out there on what constitutes a good braking system.
If I was to upgrade from my current setup I'd definitely be looking at a larger disc. IMO you aren't gaining much from just a caliper change.
 


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You also need to be careful which way(and how much) you send the brake bias with the new calipers.
 


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Very true, obviously I don't want too much upfront causing dear end lift ( worse case scenario) hence why I was thinking just going for the twin pots , but I'd like to know will a twin pot even give me more stopping power opposed to the current single piston.

I've heard of people running the ep3 setup which as far as I'm aware are 300mm ?

Only problem being my stud pattern is 4x100 and ep3 discs are 5x114.3 I think, not looking to go hub swap either which will sway me over to the twin pot again, and don't want to get discs drilled every time new ones are needed, I do know mtec do this if you buy from their site.
 


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You can get in touch with @Kozy , he can answer any question about brakes and give you pointers on whats good and whats not depending on what your goals are...
 


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You can get in touch with @Kozy , he can answer any question about brakes and give you pointers on whats good and whats not depending on what your goals are...

The wise Kozy, I remember him from civiclife but seems he's no longer active on the forums.
 


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He has a bias calc online somewhere.
Black art racing Iirc, your answer is on that...
 


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I've opted for the 300mm accord twin pot setup for the dc2 I'm building as I know a few folk who have ran them, meant to be mega stopping power and no fade and get the bonus of being all oem parts for reliability
 


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Considering you said upgraded to Dc2 282s I will assume you are 4x100 civic not an EK9

Have you uprated the Rears to 260 to match the fronts? Or still on 240s. This would be my first point if Better braking was needed.

As for upgrading the fronts instead of buying new. I would look at the wilwood setups or spoons. Spoon are quite allot of money for what they are and in comparison to the likes of the other 300mm wilwood setups you can buy for a little more or the 282 wilwoods you can buy that go on stock discs for much less I would have a look over on Freakyparts site.

ATR 300mm twin pots are a cheap route to big 300mm brakes but at the cost of heavy calipers and the added complication if you are 4x100 having to redrill discs. When you add it all up calipers, discs and pads you are not far of the wilwoods on 282 discs you already have.

Take note though that all of the above will need adequate wheel clearance.
 


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Considering you said upgraded to Dc2 282s I will assume you are 4x100 civic not an EK9

Have you uprated the Rears to 260 to match the fronts? Or still on 240s. This would be my first point if Better braking was needed.

As for upgrading the fronts instead of buying new. I would look at the wilwood setups or spoons. Spoon are quite allot of money for what they are and in comparison to the likes of the other 300mm wilwood setups you can buy for a little more or the 282 wilwoods you can buy that go on stock discs for much less I would have a look over on Freakyparts site.

ATR 300mm twin pots are a cheap route to big 300mm brakes but at the cost of heavy calipers and the added complication if you are 4x100 having to redrill discs. When you add it all up calipers, discs and pads you are not far of the wilwoods on 282 discs you already have.

Take note though that all of the above will need adequate wheel clearance.

I am running the 4x100 pcd yeah. 262 up fears that also are going for a rebuild.
I'll have a look at the 282 wilwoods. I'm struggling to clear my gridVs atm as it is, had to put a 5mm spacer on.

I guess if I was running the 5 lug swap the ATR swap would of been easier but being 4x100 it's a lot of work and money.
 


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Had a look at the 282 wilwoods and think I'll save for them . Priced as used Spoon items and if I remember correctly come with half decent bnib pads
 


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If you're interested, I could probably do a deal on the Midilite kit with some decent pads, or if you're wanting even more stopping power, there is the Superlite kit with 2 piece 300x32mm or 310x32mm discs :D
 


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Hi,

I have dc2 282s upfront but are looking like they need a rebuild as they're sticking, so thought why not upgrade again since I'll eventually be going for a rotrex k20 so best to upgrade before then. Yes the integra calipers are more than capable and a good pad will stop easily enough in a light chassis etc etc but like I said they'll need rebuilding so want to see what other options I have.

So far I know to keep my disc size I have prelude/legend twin pots and spoons.

If I go for the twin pots, do I aid in better braking, how easy is the swap , can I re use the brake lines I'm currently running ?

From what I've read spoons are a straight swap, but I can't justify paying the price on spoons.


Any advice, ideas tips and tricks will be much appreciated.

There is no benefit in switching to a twin pot caliper on the same disk, if anything it's actually a downgrade. Bigger discs is what you want if you're upping the power.
 


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The wise Kozy, I remember him from civiclife but seems he's no longer active on the forums.

I am still around from time to time, I drive an ATR and an MX5 now though so don't come back to the Civic forums much.

He has a bias calc online somewhere.
Black art racing Iirc, your answer is on that...

My MX5 brake bias app has had quite a few upgrades recently... the Honda one rarely got used so it fell by the wayside.
 


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