Prices of Superchargers, Turbos and K20's

[Tom19]

Do it! so worth it the jrsc looks great if you have a good strong set up with a good cooling system, ill see what $'s early next year brings

 

[Nuno@Camtec]

Depends on what sort of power you are looking at. Turbo can start of a cheapy, then it can progress and progress and you end up going daft with it. I know I did, so be careful with what you're buying.

Turbo is best though.

the 100% truth ^^^^

before you know it its a 4k engine rebuild etc.

 

[Chris_Ho]

Depends on what your using it for? If its for track i'd say supercharger as you'll tend to pull off faster with all the corners.

 

[Eck]

I have always wanted to charge my b16 though, as i have never experience one.....

If you were closer I would have happily took you out in mine!

But you are like me, the exact reason I'm happy with mine it still keeps the essence of vtec. A bit more torque lower down but all the power is still up top and you still get an awesome changeover. Traction is brilliant too. It'll only wheelspin with first gear tomfoolery. Can pin it coming out of nigh on every corner in second without traction issues. No diff either

 

[D17KDB]

If you were closer I would have happily took you out in mine!

But you are like me, the exact reason I'm happy with mine it still keeps the essence of vtec. A bit more torque lower down but all the power is still up top and you still get an awesome changeover. Traction is brilliant too. It'll only wheelspin with first gear tomfoolery. Can pin it coming out of nigh on every corner in second without traction issues. No diff either

A supercharged B16 is awesome. It can also beat new focus RS's no problem.

Eck's Jordan is a monster for a standred engine

 

[CivicTypeR89]

so what superchagers are available for the b16b and where can you get them from? Funkypower only sells them for b16a's....

 

[Eck]

A supercharged B16 is awesome. It can also beat new focus RS's no problem.

Eck's Jordan is a monster for a standred engine

I was sceptical Boydy! Until I had a pay with one myself last week, made him look very silly indeed (upto the speed limit of course). There are Vortech ones designed for the B18, that would fit the B16B. But I don't really want to comment on the reliability of them due to the raised compression.

 

[689R]

Depends on what your using it for? If its for track i'd say supercharger as you'll tend to pull off faster with all the corners.

wat

I think I would prefer a supercharger as its less maintanence and less wheelspin as I hear a turbo doesn't put the power down as well as it could

again, wat?


Pull off faster with all the corners? I cant even comprehend what this is meant to mean, but Im assuming its something about a supercharged giving power at all revs? Turbo's can do the same, just need to be well chosen, correct manifold, boost, map etc etc.

Superchargeds will also require maintenance and are harder to extract more power from.

Less wheelspin, lawl, neither can technically have moar wheelspin, the wheelspin is at the discretion of the user.

 

[Eck]

It's quite a simple concept really. Turbo's make far more torque lower down the rev range, whereas the Supercharger keeps the power up in Vtec so it is less likely to give you wheelspin out of a corner with a big dollop of torque. A diff will make a difference though.

Neither can have more wheelspin? Are you kidding? It's quite simple. Like for like, a Turbocharged car will have more torque, and it'll be far lower down the rev range, so more likely to break traction than Supercharged car. Yes, your right foot will make a difference, but if both are driven by a ham fisted driver the former will be more likely to spin than the latter.

 

[689R]

but if both are driven by a ham fisted driver the former will be more likely to spin than the latter.

I think this is the key point here, the dude was thinking about supercharging his car based on the merit that it will wheelspin less than if it was turbocharged?

Obviously a car with 250/lbs ft is going to spin the wheels more easily than a car with 150/lbs ft, but with the same dunce at the wheel both will spin up with easy in a 1050kg car with 15 or 16 inch rimz.

Wheelspin is just one element of increasing a cars power and it can be dealt with accordingly, just think picking a type of forced induction solely based on this is ridiculous haha.

 

[Eck]

I agree. If that's the sole reason then a serious rethink is needed. But, truth be told; there really isn't a BAD kind of forced induction! Just depends on your driving style and what you prefer. I'm a rev hungry **** so my Supercharger does me well

 

[Murray]

Turbo on track=WIN
The throttle peddle isnt a switch, also the torque i have i can hold 3rd round corners instead of ringing its neck in 2nd

 

[ali-c]

If you were closer I would have happily took you out in mine!

LOL cheers for the offer but yeh we couldnt be much further away from one another. Im interested in your motor now, please update us on your old thread, would love to read a bit more about it.

 

[E2-SAW]

Its not an outlandish claim tbh. Im saying turbo is better because i have a turbo, and the turbo benefits outweighed the supercharged benefits for when you reached powers like 350hp + (currently running mine the now at 420hp on 0.8bar, so im running similair boost pressure to your charger, but 150hp better off for it)

But iv spent ridiculous money on mine, having rebuilt it completely since buying it and upgrading it more.

never mind beating a new Focus RS. Brand new M3 convertible was my last skelp. He was bound to be back in the showroom the following morning asking why his £65k 440hp motor got embarassed by a dirty old EK Civic. Boy never stopped for a natter or anything afterwards.


Whats your budget for going FI mate? I dont see the benefits just for wheelspins......that just breaks things faster

 

[Tom19]

I wish i could get a turbo track monster but i use the car for everything, cant afford to run another as of yet! supercharger suits me as i dont want all the power of a turbo, only been driving 2 years dont wanna sprint before i can crawl!

 

[Tom19]

[/QUOTE]Whats your budget for going FI mate? I dont see the benefits just for wheelspins......that just breaks things faster [/QUOTE]

budget is about 3k

 

[689R]

3K

If i had an EK9 plus that, Id get a B18C and a nice exhaust manifold and mapped and a really sick gearbox. Get it all done proper, rather than half ass turbo etc.

 

[Murray]

I wish i could get a turbo track monster but i use the car for everything, cant afford to run another as of yet! supercharger suits me as i dont want all the power of a turbo, only been driving 2 years dont wanna sprint before i can crawl!

Spec the turbo to what power you want. My car can be used for the daily commute or get thrown around the track with minimal fuss. It still has all the creature comforts too.
Im lucky enough now that i can afford another car to do the commuting.


3k would have you a nice lowblow setup that would trounce b18s. Remember though your budget should include brakes, suspension, drivetrain, cooling. Supercharger or turbo.

 

[E2-SAW]

3K

If i had an EK9 plus that, Id get a B18C and a nice exhaust manifold and mapped and a really sick gearbox. Get it all done proper, rather than half ass turbo etc.

This.

£3k wont get you a decent FI setup that'll last

and like Murray says, you'll need to consider improving brakes, suspension etc etc

 

[Tom19]

a b18c does sound pretty good, i do already have a decent exhaust mani, i'll have to see what sort of b18's are knocking about new year, i have looked into the jrsc and vortech and most people are doing them for around 3k now, minus suspension and brakes so ill just have to see if i can stretch it.