*** SPOON vs OEM ECU DYNO RESULTS ***


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Right as promised i said i would get a back to back test done on these ECU's and here are the results.

Test equipment

Dyno Dynamics rollers

Engine

B18C

Mods

Spoon N1
Spoon B pipe
Mugen 4-2-1
Baffled decat
Spoon air filter
Spoon elbow
Spoon 70mm Taper throttle body
Cold air feed in bumper

Results and graph

Spoon ECU 197.4 bhp (Pink Lines)
OEM ECU 196 bhp (Green Lines)

Power and Torque

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Power and AFR

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Ok not much in it on peak BUT right from down low the graph is above the OEM as much as 17 bhp @ 6000 rpm. The Spoon is significantly above the OEM on average arround 7 bhp through out! I'm very pleased with these results especially when the ECU cost me £350.

One thing to note is both ECU's where running lean OEM a lot more than the Spoon. The Dyno man told me not to run the OEM one anymore because it was that lean. He said the Spoon was good in VTEC but a bit lean low down. Nothing to much to worry about but there is more from my Engine with a S300 :nerv:

Engine

B16B

Mods

5Zigen Miracle Fireball Cat Back
Vibrant 4-2-1 Header
OEM Cat (forgot to switch back to my decat after MOT!!)
J’s Racing Tsuchinoko Intake
Custom Aluminium Airbox for intake with cold air feed from bumper vent

Results and graph

Spoon ECU 170.7 bhp (Blue Lines)
OEM ECU 170.7 bhp (Pink Lines)

Power and Torque

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Power and AFR

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Good to see that the spoon significantly improves the mid-range. Thats where you feel it :) i dont think i'd want to run a set programmed ECU tho for the same reason's the dyno bloke said about it being lean.

Are those spoon ECU's supposed to be used with a set parameter of bolt on's? cos i can see why it would run lean with your goodies :)

Oh and P.S.. yea you'll see some more improvement with the Hondata :)
 
Just confirming what weve known all along :nice:

Get the graphs up maan! i wanna looky!
 
oem ecu run lean ?
is the first time i hear that these ecu's are famous for running rich...
that was before or after the i/h/e mods ??
 
In standard form it will more likely run rich, but with Intake and exhaust Mods it may begin to lean out...Not to be confused with Lean back

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Lol **** me...i ent laughed so much all weekend :)

And yea...the more and more mods you do it the more and more it will lean out Abunai888
 
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you spend majority of time at low/mids revs so running lean is not good, ill be totally honest in that dont like these kind of ecu, just get it mapped a quick as you can

they is no way to cheaply map a car correctly
 
I'd like to see the graphs comparing the two on a stock car, I don't think the Spoon ECU would be as impressive then.
 
I'l also be doing this in the next month, be interesting to see on a B16B engine, my car engine mods are Mugen 4-1 Manifold, Standard Filter, Cat (still), fujitsubo legalis r cat back exhaust, Plus a Spoon ECU
 
Yes he did. Similar results as Ian, just not as large a difference. Seems the spoon ecu gives it's greatest increase as the v-tec engages up to about 7300rpm.

Interestingly my car with no spoon ecu made the most power for a b16b on the day. Glad considering last year under previous ownership it made the least!!
 
haitch said:
Did Max get to test his Spoon v oem?
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I'll get my graphs scanned and posted soon man (forgot to bring them to work today). Interestingly, whilst I made a lot more power in the midrange, I actually lost 1 or 2 bhp at the top end with the Spoon..

None the less, a lot more fun to drive with than the OEM ECU.
 
Great post, cred for actually making the effort to measure it! :nice:

Jokeshopbeard said:
I'll get my graphs scanned and posted soon man (forgot to bring them to work today). Interestingly, whilst I made a lot more power in the midrange, I actually lost 1 or 2 bhp at the top end with the Spoon..

None the less, a lot more fun to drive with than the OEM ECU.
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Would love to see those man!
 
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