*** SPOON vs OEM ECU DYNO RESULTS ***


Jokeshopbeard said:
I'll get my graphs scanned and posted soon man (forgot to bring them to work today). Interestingly, whilst I made a lot more power in the midrange, I actually lost 1 or 2 bhp at the top end with the Spoon..

None the less, a lot more fun to drive with than the OEM ECU.
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thats how it should be to create quicker accelerating car
 
Vtec6000 said:
Have you a log of AFR's on the dyno printout?
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Yes i have i will post that up also. Spoon was arround 13.5 average and OEM was about 14.5.

JDMarron said:
Good to see that the spoon significantly improves the mid-range. Thats where you feel it :) i dont think i'd want to run a set programmed ECU tho for the same reason's the dyno bloke said about it being lean.

Are those spoon ECU's supposed to be used with a set parameter of bolt on's? cos i can see why it would run lean with your goodies :)

Oh and P.S.. yea you'll see some more improvement with the Hondata :)
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Not sure on the parameter for the Spoon i believe its breathing mods which is what i have done. End of the day on the pre programmed ECU we all run them from factory as is and how many people run them with mods! For the money and ease pre programmed are a good alternative.

Stand alone custom maps are the way forward IF you can afford it. imo

Rich777 said:
Have you got a graph of the fueling of the spoon ecu ?
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Yes i will get that posted very soon. Just moved out and only just got my internet back! :angry:
 
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A chipped P28 with harness and a custom remap won't cost more than a Spoon ECU. So the only difference is ease of use.

Great thread and awesome of you to share this info! +rep
 
iceman said:
you spend majority of time at low/mids revs so running lean is not good, ill be totally honest in that dont like these kind of ecu, just get it mapped a quick as you can

they is no way to cheaply map a car correctly
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I totaly agree with you on this one ICEMAN:nice:

But i am still very intrested in seeing the graphs!

Fair paly to you both though for taking the time to do these back to back tests!:clap:
 
blinx9900 said:
Dunsy that was epic!
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Lol


I agree with Ian, the SHEER Ease of the plug and play-ness of the spoon ECU and the gains you get are much less haassle than having to get a chipped P28, then get it mapped etc etc.

We all know custom maps are the best way to go, but for the sheer simpleness i dont know if there is a much better mod than a Spoon ECU, My car is boring since i sold mine! Too Smooth, not complaining about the power and safety of my engine now but its alot less exciting than the Spoon ECU
 
Yea to be fair a plug and play Spoon ecu is deffo a lot more simple than having to get all the correct components to have a chipped P28 ecu.

Although my P28 ECU tuned on crome has cost me a hell of a lot less than a Spoon ecu :)
 
14.5 AFR at WOT that's very lean, not good for your engine and defiantly be loosing out on power. Spoon AFR of 13.5 sounds pretty good if it's consistent at WOT throughout rev range
 
Vtec6000 said:
14.5 AFR at WOT that's very lean, not good for your engine and defiantly be loosing out on power. Spoon AFR of 13.5 sounds pretty good if it's consistent at WOT throughout rev range
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13.5 afr under load is spot on for NA engines, :nice:
 
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Results and graph

Spoon ECU 197.4 bhp (Pink Lines)
OEM ECU 196 bhp (Green Lines)

Power and Torque

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Power and AFR

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Sorry for the wait people.
 
They are pretty ****ing Smooth for a Spoon ECU like! My Spoon AFR was up and down like a rocket!
 
Dunsy said:
They are pretty ****ing Smooth for a Spoon ECU like! My Spoon AFR was up and down like a rocket!
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The graph itself (not AFR) will always look smooth on any dyno that uses the calculated gear ratio to get the rpm. The inductive pickups let you see missfires. But the AFR is lean on both as the program is not suited to the spec of the vehicle.

Very nice comparison though guys :nice:
 
That is actually a nice power improvement over the course of rev range. Im impressed.
 
Sorry for the wait guys, I've finally got the results up for the B16B ECU! I'll follow the same format as Ian's first post to keep things easy.

As for the results, I'll let you make your own minds up. I've gotta say though, regardless of what the graphs say, the Spoon ECU makes the car a LOT more fun to drive...


**Could you copy this into your first post please Ian, will make it easier to find for people interested**


Test equipment

Dyno Dynamics rollers

Engine

B16B

Mods

5Zigen Miracle Fireball Cat Back
Vibrant 4-2-1 Header
OEM Cat (forgot to switch back to my decat after MOT!!)
J’s Racing Tsuchinoko Intake
Custom Aluminium Airbox for intake with cold air feed from bumper vent

Results and graph

Spoon ECU 170.7 bhp (Blue Lines)
OEM ECU 170.7 bhp (Pink Lines)

Power and Torque

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Power and AFR

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so whats the overall difference[torque, power-band etc.] between the S300 and Spoon? Anything worth sharing?

In my mind I think that the S300 tuned by a good mechanic will be better than Spoon ecu, but this is all in my head.
 
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