Which tuning option?


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Nathbot

Almost tracked EK9..
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Right guys,

Ive been at Santa Pod this weekend at Japshow. Quite a good weekend out, had a few runs on the Saturday but with a STONKING headwind that messed everyones times up.

I only managed a 15.7 at 89mph :( bit disappointed with that. My car is standard engine wise, but thought I would get a bit better! anyway, back onto point.

After this weekend, seeing some other DC2's and EK9's going down the track with basic breathing mods etc I've decided I'm going to spend a bit of money on the engine.

I have narrowed it down to two different options:

1) Full exhaust system (Apexi N1/Spoon N1) Mugen Manifold (which I already have), Intake of some sort and an S300 with a full uber remap with Will :naughty:

2) B18C swap, Full exhaust system (Apexi N1/Spoon N1) Mugen Manifold. :drool:

Now I realise that the latter will have more potential later on in the modification process, having almost 200 brake straight out the box and with full breathing mods. But I wont be getting it mapped straight away. whereas with the first option I will have full breathing mods and a REALLY good remap with the car running really well etc.:blabla:

Im not sure which to go for. Im sure I'll be doing more to my 9 after a while but I dont want to go too far with it. Ive also seen plenty of healthy B16B's making really good power with IHE mods.

Any advice is welcome guys, from both B16 purists and people who have had B18 swaps. Im really in two minds about this so input from you guys is essential! :please:

Thanks people! :thanks:

Nath
 
Id go with option two as it has more scope in the future for improvement and also you would hopefully be able to make a reseanable amount back from the sale of your b16b.
 
B20. 150lbft will make sure car shift better than anything else will.
 
Yeh Im thinking B18, but I like the idea of having a really nicely running B16B with IHE and a GOOD remap. I coulod always swap a B18 in at a later date also!

Dont want to go the B20 route tbh, too much hassle.
 
I did think that originally, but to be honest it doesn't seem that much more effort than a B18 swap?

Or are you talking about building the engine properly?
 
Yeh, building a reliable B20 that I can thrash would be a bit of a concern.

The B16 and B18 are bullet proof, so kinda want to stay with them.
 
hi mate,

i got a ek9 and want to b18 it but i got to wait till im 21 to get insurance as im going to declare it, but when i do it im just going to get a b18 block and use my b16b head, as im going to build another engine using my b16b block, so for the time being i am just going to change things like my inlet manifold, exhaust manifold, throttle body, flywheel, clutch, ecu, cams etc (all head stuff really) so then when i do get the b18 block i can still use these parts and get gains!

good luck
 
Drag racing is very simple:

-If your NA you run the biggest engine you can find
-If your turbo you run the biggest turbo your engine will spool

With that said option 2 is the only way to go. But also remember NA Honda's are usually disappointing to drag race unless you go with a fully built motor or a K or a race prepped chassis that weighs 1700lb.
 
How does a K20 swap work out budget wise?

For example, how much to do a B18 swap and how much for a K20 swap?
 
CrouchingWayne said:
How does a K20 swap work out budget wise?

For example, how much to do a B18 swap and how much for a K20 swap?
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Well since you didn't fill out the location field in your profile i have no idea where you are so there is no way to answer your question.
 
Thanks guys,

I don't really want to build an engine, I would rather stick to just a straight swap. For ease, speed and value for money. A K swap is kind of out of the question as I don't want to spend silly money on the car atm.

I appreciate what your saying Blinx, I know my 9 isn't built for drag racing, I wasn't really saying I want to get more power so its awesome on the quarter mile. I was just saying it was the weekend just gone that made me decide to go for a bit more power. Although some of the lightly tuned EK's and DC2's were doing really well for there displacement. I was quite impressed.

My friend has a UKDM DC2 with just a Manifold and full Mugen twinloop exhaust and he ran a 15.1 in the headwind :woot:. He was running 15.7's before then when it was standard, so that's a damn good improvement. Obviously not all down to the mods :blabla:

I really want to just stick to the 2 options I have given above. Any other input from people with B18's? or Healthy tuned B16B's? would be greatly appreciated guys! :thanks:

Nath
 
got to remember mate these cars arent realy built for drag, personally i think i'd go for a nice b16 setup, just to keep it original ek9 :)
 
Yes I know they aren't meant for drag. I understand that. It was merely the fact that I had been at a drag event that made me want to improve the performance.

I am more interested how it performs on the twistys, thats why I said my car is standard engine wise. As its a great fast road car straight out the box.

I appreciate your input, that was also one of the things I was thinking. Keep it original B16 EK9'ness. Still undecided though. I have to say I am leaning towards B18C swap :nerv:
 
also practice on the drag, half a second or so could easily come down to the driver at end of the day.
 
Thanks, I'll bare that in mind. But like I said, I'm not that bothered about drag racing. It was just the event I was at, at the weekend.

I'm more interested in opinions/positives and negatives regarding the two options I have mentioned in my first post.

So please guys, keep em comin' :))

:thanks:
 
This is really down to your own opinion TBH mate!

If it was me i would go down the B18 rought! (i would say that though) lol

Your first option would be very nice as WILL has made some good gain's with the B16's, but you would get more power from dropping a B18 in there!

I loved it when i first dropped my B18 in my 9, IMHO it is the engine that should have been in there from the start!
I is a lot better for everyday driving with the B18 due to the extra torque, but my 9 really came to life after my re-map from WILL!:naughty:

So to answer your question i would say go for the B18, but i would still be looking to get WILL to work his magic on your B18 in the future!:nice:
 
Thanks for posting JIMBOB. I have followed many of your posts and was hoping you would offer your opinion :woot:

If I went the B18 route I would definitely get it mapped at a later date. If I go with that option it will only be the B18 and full exhaust for a while. But as you say the extra torque and power, I guess, would be the same as if I got my B16B mapped well. (less torque though) So I guess the B18 is the sensible option for more potential.

Does the B18 really make that much of a difference? Ive heard its like night and day. But Im slightly sceptical, as Ive not experienced it first hand.
 
Holy ****! that's awesome!

Did you strip your car or anything for that? and did you have carbon goodies?

I think it might have to be a B18 after that bit of info! :drool:
 
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