B18C JDM Piston Ring Honing Specs


If you had ACL race in there you would of been fuked for sure.

Yeh let me know...

honda bearings are not some miracle bearing that will save your engine no matter what, i pulled a standard set out of my old engine just after i bought my car that had deystroyed the crank. been using acl bearings for almost 2 years now with no problems.
 
I never said they was lol. What ever was in your oil then must of been pretty large then as the OP's crank is fine along with my own crank. I can tell you now just from looking at those bearings that if he was running ACL race his crank would of been fuked.
 
Right well took the crank, pistons and block down to my engine builder at lunch time. He's going to let me know if the piston to wall gap is within 0.003".

Also he's getting me a quote for full ACL bearing set. Does anyone know if these need to be gauged or can I just get hold of a honda matched one?
 
you can get oe sized bearings but you must gauge them to teh crank to see if teh clearance is within servicable limits,
 
Yeh they are,

DV8, what colour bearings are in your block ? I have the chart at home so i'll take a look at it when i get back.

Which ACL bearings are they ? If there the Duraglide how much are you paying if you don't mind me asking.
 
Does anyone know or have the specs for B18C crank, my mate is an engineer and has all the gauges and measuring devices but we just don't know the numbers.
 
Yeh they are,

DV8, what colour bearings are in your block ? I have the chart at home so i'll take a look at it when i get back.

Which ACL bearings are they ? If there the Duraglide how much are you paying if you don't mind me asking.

Don't recall seing any colour on them (Bearings are light silver... LOL).

Didn't even know there were types of ACL bearings... I only just found out how bearings actually worked :clap:
 
tim dont over engineer it!! i didnt with mine and ive got good reliable power and tourque! i handed everything over to a machine shop who checkd the crank balance + polished it then chemically cleaned every thing and put it all toghter with race shells for £340 and it was honed for £140.. the easyes step is to keep it relativly simple but thats just me as i was'nt looking for big power just decent tourque, if only you were closer and id let you drive mine which would give ya more of an idea
 
If you didn't see the colour they could already be ACL's, I found the rods in the engine I bought were ACL or another brand while the mains were OEM. The engine was also rinning a stroker kit.
Here is a chart of Honda B series bearing thickness by color. To calculate actual bearing clearance, use the following formula:

BC = IDBT – ODC – (2 x BT)

BC = bearing clearance
IDBT = inside diameter of bearing tunnel (housing bore)
ODC = outside diameter of crank journal
BT = bearing thickness

Main Bearing thickness by color
Blue 2.013-2.010 mm 0.0793”- 0.0791”
Black 2.010-2.007 mm 0.0791”- 0.0790”
Brown 2.007-2.004 mm 0.0790”- 0.0789”
Green 2.004-2.001 mm 0.0789”- 0.0788”
Yellow 2.001-1.998 mm 0.0788”- 0.0787”
Pink 1.998-1.995 mm 0.0787”- 0.0785”
Red 1.995-1.992 mm 0.0785”- 0.0783”

Rod bearing thickness by color
Blue 1.510-1.507 mm 0.0594”- 0.0593”
Black 1.507-1.504 mm 0.0593”- 0.0592”
Brown 1.504-1.501 mm 0.0592”- 0.0591”
Green 1.501-1.498 mm 0.0591”- 0.0590”
Yellow 1.498-1.495 mm 0.0590”- 0.0589”
Pink 1.495-1.492 mm 0.0589”- 0.0587”
Red 1.492-1.489 mm 0.0587”- 0.0586”

Although most people do not have inside micrometers, bearing micrometers or snap gauges, you can still use this chart when using plastigage to check bearing clearance. If you want to increase or decrease a bearing clearance, you can calculate how much of a color change is necessary by looking at the changes on the chart. Remember you can mix colors for even a more fine-tuning but it would not be wise to jump more than one color. In other words, do not mix a brown and yellow bearing together to equal a green clearance value. Just use the greens together. It is ok to mix a green with a yellow or a green with a brown. When doing your rebuild and replacing bearings with like colors, you still must check your results with plastigage to be sure. Don’t assume anything. Also remember, when swapping to aftermarket rods, throw the color codes away as they will not work anymore. You need to start from scratch to obtain your desired clearance. On the other hand, you really cannot measure accurately to the nearest .0001” without machinist quality tools, so don’t get carried away on that last one ten thousandth of an inch variance.
 
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B18C CRANKSHAFT, MAIN and CONNECTING ROD BEARINGS – In. (mm)

Crankshaft
End Play
Standard: 0.004-0.014 (0.10-0.35)
Service Limit: 0.018 (0.45)
Runout
Standard: 0.001 (0.03)
Service Limit: 0.002 (0.05)

Main Bearings
Journal Diameter
Except No. 3: 2.1644-2.1654 (54.976-55.001)
No. 3: 2.1643-2.1653 (54.973-54.998)
Journal Out-Of-Round
Standard: 0.0002 (0.005)
Service Limit: 0.0004 (0.010)
Journal Taper
Standard: 0.0002 (0.005)
Service Limit: 0.0004 (0.010)
Oil Clearance
Except No. 3 Journal
Standard: 0.0009-0.0017 (0.023-0.043)
Service Limit: 0.0020 (0.050)
No. 3 Journal
Standard: 0.0012-0.0019 (0.030-0.048)
Service Limit: 0.0024 (0.060)
Connecting Rod Bearings
Journal Diameter: 1.7707-1.7717 (44.976-45.001)
Journal Out-Of-Round
Standard: 0.0002 (0.005)
Service Limit: 0.0004 (0.010)
Journal Taper
Standard: 0.0002 (0.005)
Service Limit: 0.0004 (0.010)
Oil Clearance
Standard: 0.0013-0.0020 (0.033-0.050)
Service Limit: 0.0024 (0.060)
CONNECTING RODS – In. (mm)

Bore Diameter
Crankpin Bore: 1.89 (48.0)
Pin Bore: 0.8254-0.8267 (20.965-20.998)
End Play
Standard: 0.006-0.012 (0.15-0.30)
Service Limit: 0.016 (0.40)
B18C PISTONS, PINS AND RINGS – In. (mm)

Pistons
Clearance
Standard: 0.0004-0.0016 (0.010-0.040)
Service Limit: 0.002 (0.050)
Diameter – Measure at 0.6″ (15 mm) from bottom of skirt.
Standard: 3.1882-3.1886 (80.980-80.990)
Service Limit: 3.1878 (80.970)
Oversize: 0.010 (0.25) 3.1984-3.1988 (81.239-81.249)
Pins
Diameter: 0.8265-0.8268 (20.993-21.000)
Piston Fit: 0.0004-0.0009 (0.010-0.022)
Rod Fit: 0.0007-0.0014 (0.017-0.035)
Rings
No. 1
End Gap: 0.008-0.014 (0.20-0.35)
Service Limit: 0.024 (0.60)
Side Clearance: 0.0018-0.0028 (0.045-0.071)
Service Limit: 0.005 (0.13)
No. 2
End Gap: 0.016-0.022 (0.40-0.55)
Service Limit: 0.028 (0.71)
Side Clearance: 0.0016-0.0026 (0.040-0.066)
Service Limit: 0.005 (0.13)
No. 3 (Oil)
End Gap: 0.008-0.020 (0.20-0.50)
Service Limit: 0.028 (0.71)
B18C CYLINDER BLOCK – In. (mm)

Cylinder Bore
Standard Diameter: 3.189-3.190 (81.00-81.02)
Service Limit: 3.192 (81.07)
Maximum Taper: 0.002 (0.05)
Maximum Re-bore Limit: 0.010 (0.25)
Deck Warpage
Maximum: 0.002 (0.05)
Service Limit: 0.003 (0.08)
 
So what are the different types of ACL bearings you can get? Iv only heard of HeavyDuty, Race and Duraglide. Whats the difference? is there more.?
 
ACL do 3 different types of bearings.

Aluglide, Duraglide & Race.

I'm not that clued up on the Aluglide but from what i suspect there more for your everyday car thats not going to get the crap thrashed out of it and be put under high loads i.e. Corsa, Fiesta, ect... you get the idea....

Duraglide are a Tri metal bearing pretty similar to our OEM bearings. There a good bearing providing your clearances are within spec. They'll take a fair amount of stick but are still soft enough to absorb any tiny pieces of swarf or crap that maybe traveling through the oil.

Race series are also a Tri metal bearing but are a lot harder than Duraglide. I personally don't like them because if theres any crap in the oil, instead of it getting embedded onto the bearing surface it will score the crank. But on the other hand they will withstand a lot of stick and are less likely fail when the engine is under race conditions. Hence the word "race"...

I hope this helps and gives you a basic idea. Theres far more to it than this obviously but you'll have to seach on google for more info to get a better idea if needed as i'm not a bearing expert.
 
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