i bet the best ek9's go for more than the bottom end jdm ep3r, same as the best dc2's go for more than the bottom end dc5's....it all comes down to what a person prefers.....I'm willing to bet that in 20+ years time dc2's and ek9's will be worth more than dc5/ep3's
Completely agree with this, but on the EK9/EP3 part you are comparing the high end of one market to the low end of another its not a pheasable argument.
I'd also imagine EK9 + DC2's will eventually be more expensive but you can see that trend happening now.
"Who would pay 8k for someones chopped up k20 DC2 when they could buy a mint stock DC5 for slight bit more. And add in how rare the DC5 is."
answer, 'I would'. I would MUCH rather have a 231 bhp/ton, in what is widely regarded as the best fwd chassis than a mundane 173 bhp/ton in slightly watered down heavy chassis which evo magazine claim 'has lost a little of the old cars magic'
I never said what i'd rather have, i'd rather build than buy - so i'd always be looking for a stock car. I'd also rather have a DC2.
I never said anything about how a DC5 is more or less exciting than a DC2 but i know that unless its true honda enthusiast or a petrol head buying - most would go for the newer stock car.
Just because we prefer faster car doesnt mean everyone does - some people prefer comfort & alot of people believe newer cars are more reliable.
you obviously dont get it mate, but some people do.....i would never even consider a dc5 if i had 8k to spend, i'd rather put 8k into a ef civic or something and have 10 times the fun.....and as for the dc5 being rarer??? i dont know where you live, but i've never seen another silver 98 spec on the roads with my own eyes, i've never seen another k20 dc2 on the road with my own eyes, but ive seen 20 dc5's in total and probably about 2 other 98 spec jdm's
Ohh I get it alright mate - i never once told you 'my' opinions - i was generalising and i explained that in my first reply.
I'd never consider a DC5 either, i'd have a 9 anyday over it.
DC5 is rarer in this country than a DC2 - no matter what colour variations / engines you talk about - more poeple would recognise a DC2 to be an Integra than a DC5
I have never seen a silver DC2 or a K20'd one for that matter either but it doesnt make the DC2 that you have rarer to any unsuspecting eyes.
i very well may struggle to sell my car for 8k, but i cant think of anything i'd replace it with for anything near that......and i could get my 8k in parts easily.
Most people may be in the market for a stock unmolested one but there's people out there that would also prefer a fast one
I contested about you saying you could get ALL (thats right you said all) your money back. That was it - you will never get ALL your money back on a modified car.
Yeah most people looking at these cars would prefer a faster car but alot of people are against engine transplants and alot of people wouldnt even bother looking at one and then there are others who want to do the transplant themselves.
God this thread has moved on lol.
I too would prefer a k20 dc2 or even a freakin stock dc2 over a DC5. Having driven both IMO dc2 is way more fun.
My opinion is the same - but you love bashin the B-Series these days lol
Also the b18c plus 3k would be faster than k20 arguement, 3k wouldnt fully build an engine and would maybe give 230bhp, but with a lumpy idle and a shifted powerband so sacrificed drivablity.
The whole point of a kseries is it makes as much power with bolt ons, as a fully built b18c.
I dont agree with this - i mean what is 'fully built' you cant really answer that - 3k into a b18c you could see more than 230 easily.
I dont know about everyone else on this forum but iv driven a k20 eg with 249bhp and 177lbs ft, a dc2 with bolt ons, a stock dc2, stock dc5, dc5 with bolt ons, b20 ek and a dc2 with bolt on and cams(not driven but passengered) and the k20d eg was so mch better than them all.
No one denies this - but its the money involved that puts people off - everyone agrees with the fact K-Series is a better swap and has great power with bolt ons.
eg6-b18c's dc2 would prob be able to keep up with a JRSC EP3, as my friends eg did, and that is a fast car..
300bhp bseries NA is also totally laughable on pump fuel in this country ha. Whatever road you go down kseries will always make more power.
First part yes - second part no.
Who cares beyond 350+ horsepower - i'd render these cars un-drivable if it got beyond that.
(i mean whats the highest horse power K-Series vs the Highest horsepower B-Series engine? i couldnt tell you cos i'd never be interested )