Opinions on Diet and Training routine


That seems like a great plan but it doesnt seem to have much room for variation. If you don't vary your workouts, most of the time you'll get bored and quit them. I'm from the US and I constantly saw late night commercials for the program P90X and tried it myself, it honestly is the best at home workout regime around. If you want to get really lean and ripped, its the program you want. It also comes with a nutrition plan with tons of options so there is much more meals to choose from. I absolutely recommend it. I was pretty lean when I started but now after 2 months into it I starting to get really ripped.
 
I'm also looking to bulk up. I'm aware that when bulking up I'll also be gaining fat on my body but I want to keep this minimal as poss. I'm 18, weigh just over 10 stones (could be less now) and i'm 5ft 7/8. I would like to weigh about 11/11.5 stones and have a good size on me. The problem with me is that my diet and training is on and off but I plan to stick at it now. It's been a good few months sinces i've trained and will hopefully be starting tomorrow and this is my diet/training plan:

9:30 - 2 slices of toast, a bowl of porridge/oats/cereal and 1/2 boiled eggs.

11:00 - Weight train for an hour

12:00 protein shake (Met/rx whey protein), 2 bolied eggs, banana (slice of brown bread maybe?)

2/3pm - Jacket potato with a can of tuna (in sunflower oil as its easier to have) light mayo, fruit

5/6 pm - Pasta with tuna

8/9 pm - Small portion of rice with grilled chicken and veg.

11pm - Glass of milk

Any help with my diet? Is this ok to be putting weight on?
 
I know this is an old thread. How are you getting on with the training Ian? I have been weight training for the last 10years and noticed a big change in myself, I started out at 9stone and just edging 13.5stone now. I train 4 times a week and break the week down into 1: Chest and Biceps, 2: Back and Triceps, 3: Sholders Delts and Traps, 4: Legs. I train Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Sunday giving my body a days rest inbetween. I have used a few suppliments over the years and found a good whey protien and Kre-alkalyn (creatine) work really well for me. Is anyone into bodybuilding, there is a local show end of October a few of the lads in the gym are entering. I have been tempted to give it a go but the chemical side of things puts me off seeing what they go though.
 
Ek9cub hi mate jus reading through the thread I'm a qualified gym instructor and induct clients at a local gym when ever they need a bit o info and what you do is the right way to train mate but one thing that's wrong is taking protein shakes they are aload of s**t and a waste of money all the protein you need Is in your food if you eat alot of pasta rice and fish, but creatine is good stuff but to much can effect your kidneys, also try different weights. What I mean is for the bench press say Monday you lift 50kg and then raise the weight everytime you go up a set. Then the next time you do your chest strt on your heaviest weight and do fast sets were you strt on 100kg then without a break go to your lowest weight then back up to 90kg if you no what I mean this is good for muscle building I was 9 stone when I started out I'm now 14 jus as I train reguly hope you understand this mate n hope it helps its a bit of info for you lol
 
Also your muscles get used to the same routine so every 4 weeks throw in a few different routines to shock the muscles and gain more muscle and another bit of advice don't eat load to gain weight a this is sometimes not the case
 
I have always chopped and changed my routine every month, protien shakes can be sh*t but the CNP products that I use Propeptide are good for me. I cycle the creatine on and off, benching 110kg a good 6-8reps use a lot of free weights as not many machine in the gym.
 
Ye free weights are good n cnp is great stuff it way I use
 
What sort of gym do you train in? I train in a bodybuilding gym very basic cast iron weights and machines no heaters more like a old lockup with a roller shutter door. Get a lot of door lads, builders it's a good laugh!
 
I work at a sports centre but I train at the same type as gym as you I have a very good family friend who owns grants gym and he is a door man get my creatine off him they all lift like 200kg lol I'm getting there though we learn off each other as I have all my qualifications in the gym I'm lifting 135 with 2 reps at the min that's the most I can lift
 
I know this thread is about a month old but I didn't want to start a new thread for a quick question...Is cottage cheese actually good for you and how much should/could I have a day?
 
Yup, lots of good stuff in there. Well, like anything, moderation is key. Mabie anything up to 250g a day would be alright I suppose, but you wouldnt want to eat buckets of ti, it might become " uncomfortable" digesting all that lactose.



Recently, may favirite foods are wholegrain musli and LOTS AND LOTS of organic eggs. The fat is falling off me, and I am NEVER hungry.

Protein high fods are great for losing weight.

right now, I am 90kg, lost 2kg in about 10 days now.

Breakfast: Organic (Rude Health) musli and apple juice.
Lunch: 3 egg omlet,or scramblers, with ham, chicken, bacon (fat trimmed)
Dinner: Basically anything, as long as it has some vegtables in there and a goood serving of protein and low carb.

Exercise: Gym, free weights, treadmill, rowing, 2 days a week, Bmx, 2 hours, 2 days a week.

Booze: Limited to 10 units a week just now.

Water intake, 2-3litres per day, chilled.

Tea also helps supress appetite.
 
Lynch said:
Yup, lots of good stuff in there. Well, like anything, moderation is key. Mabie anything up to 250g a day would be alright I suppose, but you wouldnt want to eat buckets of ti, it might become " uncomfortable" digesting all that lactose.



Recently, may favirite foods are wholegrain musli and LOTS AND LOTS of organic eggs. The fat is falling off me, and I am NEVER hungry.

Protein high fods are great for losing weight.

right now, I am 90kg, lost 2kg in about 10 days now.

Breakfast: Organic (Rude Health) musli and apple juice.
Lunch: 3 egg omlet,or scramblers, with ham, chicken, bacon (fat trimmed)
Dinner: Basically anything, as long as it has some vegtables in there and a goood serving of protein and low carb.

Exercise: Gym, free weights, treadmill, rowing, 2 days a week, Bmx, 2 hours, 2 days a week.

Booze: Limited to 10 units a week just now.

Water intake, 2-3litres per day, chilled.

Tea also helps supress appetite.
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2kg in 10 days is really good, keep it up :nice:
Im guessing that's green tea?
I had that cottage cheese yesterday, had it on it's own...weren't the best tasting thing, about 75% down I started feeling a bit sick!
 
Some green tea. Mainly just twinings earl grey or dajeeling. No milk, no sugar. :)

I am not a huge fan of cottage cheese, but then again, I try and keep dairy out of my diet.

Something I have been getting into my diet to is capscacum. The stuff that makes chillies hot. It is well known to boos metabolic rate.

Swimming tomo, going to try for 360m. 20 lengths. That should keep the metabolism fired up for a day or so.
 
And here's me trying to gain weight / mass lol, Any hints for someone trying to add wieght not slim down? My mate said that creotine stuff? but i have no idea!!
 
Creotine*sp? is only going to do anything if you actually train. Are you one of those skinny dudes who do not gain an ounce no matter what you eat?

One of mates is like that, and he started coming to the gym with us doing free weights, now he is super lean but nicely built up.

Start doing some weight training to put on more muscle, you will soon gain weight that way. Muscle is heavier than fat.


Perhaps you are dangerously thin however, in this case, you need to nourish yourself up to a healthy weight, and for this its just diet. Plenty high quality cars, wholemeal bread, oats, plenty of protein, fish, steak chicken etc, plenty of healthy fats, nuts and avacado are two good sources.


Mabie, as a 3rd option, you are already healthy but want to bulk up, I think, in that case its just a case of eating more and training more. I dont know, I am kinda speculating as to what your mate wants.
 
I spend no more than an hour in the gym. Very anti social unlike a lot of people in my gym (& I'm sure all over), ipod is my best friend aha. I've done the bulk up - shred - bulk up - shred bollocks & even though results were good I didn't find it healthy for me nor my relationship, social life etc. I use to be 184 lbs standing @ 5ft 9, now I'm 161 lbs which I maintain & feel happy with.

I train hard, I mix my whole weekly routine, exercise movements, up every 8 weeks, I find my body gets use to the routine around this time period - I stop aching days after a workout, those kind of signs ... I use a spotter on bench only, everything else I don't as I feel your form goes when you count on a spotter on other exercises, form is so important. 30 mins interval training - bike or treadmill 3x a week.

I use 2 supplements, casein proteins before bed & L-Glutamine every day which I think is THE best thing ever! Yes supplements work but boy it's expensive to keep up, you can reach your goals without them (my opinion).

Creatine helps you push out those few reps you might not of done without it, you will find it is present in most protein powders. I didn't take very well to it, it ached my joints and shooting pains up my fore arms whilst doing Z-bar was horrendous ... works for some I guess

My diet is key to it all, strict as hell. Blow out day is Saturday, eat anything I want, I kick the sh*t out of this day .. it is a good day :) I don't drink half as much either, also a significant factor of me reaching my goal.

My 2p's worth ... :)
 
Alot of info in this thread is accurate and usefull and alot of people respond differently to different training methods

I have been training for over 2 and a half years now mostly weight training. When I started training I was around 11 stone and I am currently 85kg which I think is under 13.5 stone and I am 5'10".

I have trained pretty much constanly since I started and I train reasonably hard, I have tried all different styles of training, from training 5-6 days a week to training 2 days a week. I am a strong believer that using alot of free weights, targeting compound exercises and lifting big weights for reps between 5-8 is the way to go to acheive strength & size which is what I have always aimed for being naturally slim.

Very important exercises for building mass include; Dead lifts, Squating, Bench press, shoulder press, pull ups, bent over rows etc all of these compound exercises release the biggest amount of natural testosterone and growth ******* for making you big basically so if you are looking for size really concentrate on these.

At the minute the frequency for training I find that works best for me is to train hard for no more than 45mins with little rest in between sets and then take at least 2 days until I train again and sometimes 3 if I still feel sore. I break up my training days to concentrate on 1 muscle group each day so, Legs, chest, back/abs, shoulders and arms.

For example, when I started to train legs I was struggling with 60kg for 8 reps on a free bar squat, I am now squatting 145kg on a free bar for 8-10 reps so you can make alot of progress training hard over a few years but nothing is going to happen fast in a few weeks. I train alone most of the time so for the bench I use dumbells instead of a bar to be safer and currently press 42kg dumbells on each arm.

With supplements, creatine and protein are all that is needed. For creatine I use Kre-alkylin tablets 1 before training and 1 after they are very good and because they are ph balanced they reach muscles at full potency unlike powders that bloat you and make you feel sick. I try to eat more high protein foods than shakes but I do have 1 shake after training and one at night after all my meals. Diet is key, eat every 3 hours with good lean protein, wholegrain carbs and fruit/veg as much as you can!

Another key factor is sleep, at least 8-9 hours a night esp on training days
 
All I do is eat healthy and use my excercise bike everyday. usually do just 1hr and normally cover anywhere between 18-22 kilometers depending how heavy i go at it !

I dont eat any sweets or crisps at all, gave up smoking couple years back (although have been known to still have one when with mates which is really bad and shouldnt) and dont drink any fizzy juice at all just water and diluting and have it weak. Also been known to eat take aways / mcds and things at the weekends when with friends.

I'm 5ft 8 and was at one point 11 & half stone now down to 10 & half and dont want to lose any more.

Would love to bulk up on muscle but I dont have money for a gym membership right now so limited to what i can do really.
 
The kre-alkylin by Vyomax are great you get no cramps or disscomfort. You could try metherdrol or met 1 test and cycle it if you want a boost, just drink loads of water plus up your protien intake.
 
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