Rich777's B16 engine build


Yea best being patient mate, great things come to those who wait! :)

I love christmas too, cant wait!!!!! :)
 
awesome build mate this is the first time i have looked in this thread. Nice to see you doing all the work yourself should be a great engine :)
 
Small update,

I have recieved the rest of the parts i needed from Real Street Performance. Now i just need to pay off some money towards my holiday/vacation to California next year and i can start saving for the machine work :) . I'd imagine i'd be getting the machine work done late January/early Febuary.

A few quick pictures (sorry about the poor quality, this new Nokia i have is crap),

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Niceeee :)

can't wait to get my bits through, im getting excited looking at your parts lol
 
Some nice parts there young Rich, coming together all good! :) hope you have been thinking about my essay! lol
 
Got chance to do some measuring today guys. Everything so far is spot on.

Here are the results :

-All crank main and rod journals are close to perfectly round ( i don't like using the word "perfect" on its own because it doesn't exist). Thats within .0001 for both of them. Honda call for .0002

-All crank main and rod journals tappers are within .0001 Honda call for .0002

-Crankshaft run out (straightness) come out at .0004 on the dial indicator. The true reading is half of that which is .0002. Honda call for .0008 as max on a new crank and .0012 as the service limit. I'm not sure though if there talking about the gauge reading or true. Either way i'm well within spec :).

Here are a few pictures : (note, i took a few of a sleeve and the block. This is to give a idea of how they'll look when installed) :

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Sorry about a few of the poor quality pictures....

Also, just incase anyone is wondering YES arp studs do send the mains out of round and decrease the journal tunnel size when torqued up properly. I am getting the mains lined bored anyway for a few reasons. It ensures the mains are perfectly (close to lol) inline and round. It will give me one bearing size so i don't have to mess about with OEM bearing colours and pay the sky high prices for them (UK prices & there still quite expensive when imported because of shipping and tax). The bearings i am now going for are made by "Taiho" . Taiho manufacture bearings for Honda OEM so these are a true OEM bearing equivalent. They also cost £59 for a full set of mains, rods & thrusts. Also i felt that it would be a good idea to run ARP main studs as this is a B16. If it was a B18 with a girdle then i'd say different, i feel as though the extra clamping load on the main caps will help keep everything in place "better" when the engine is placed underload and starts binding as twisting (slightly).
 
Whatever the dial says, thats what the runout is. You cant just half it?
Also when you are measuring the runout its better to have the crank out on v-blocks and have the clock on the centre main.

Murray
 
I was always told that total run out was what ever the gauge read divided by 2. To be honest i've always kind of doubted it.... I installed a bearing half on journal 1 and 5 and tested that way as i have no v-blocks. The gauge was on the centre main. I'd imagine it would of worked just as well...
 
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Murrays right man , the max deviation from your preload ''0'' or max range on the dial gauge is the total runout
 
Darragh_K said:
Murrays right man , the max deviation from your preload ''0'' or max range on the dial gauge is the total runout
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Thanks for confirming that :nice:

Actually, i have a old engine blueprinting book in front of me and it says divide by 2. "Run out = TIR ÷ 2" TIR = Total indicator reading... I'm confused.com... O well, i'm within spec either way lol
 
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Rich777 said:
Thanks for confirming that :nice:

Actually, i have a old engine blueprinting book in front of me and it says divide by 2. "Run out = TIR ÷ 2" TIR = Total indicator reading... I'm confused.com... O well, i'm within spec either way lol
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Oh no ! your right Rich , me forgetting about TIR !! :eek: :)

Edit: thats me doing runout of brake discs too much lol
 
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Are you sure TIR means total indicator reading? In my industry TIR means true in relation. Ie how well its "true" end to end.

Murray
 
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