Stroking the B16b


ek9chris said:
Recently saw this and I can't see why it can't be used on the B16b. 2.2l EK9 anyone ?

Honda Stroker b18c Pistons Rods forged 2.2L + cams UK on eBay (end time 11-Sep-10 15:37:56 BST)

will someone correct me if this won't be able to fit, because I'm starting to save now !
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You`ll need sleeves to begin with. Not to mention some serious machine shop work. Then with 2.2 liters you`ll need to use a block girdle, stiffer engine mounts, a good clutch system, cams and entire valvetrain upgrade, head work and oversized valves, intake and exhaust manifolds. Just a few off the top of my head. Going 2.2 is not that easy. many things will have to be upgraded.
 
I didn't think it was going to be a case of just buying it and chucking it in...but that sounds like a LOT of work! might as well just turbo...
 
rvm said:
Since you're doing a rebuilt, you can install over sized oem pistons. 81.25 mm. hehhe :) Talk about this to your mechanic and ask him if he has a machine shop that can do this job.
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whats the advantages of using the over size pistons? will this make it more of a true B18? am i right in thinking the B16B and the B18C5 are the same blocks but the the different crank/rods/piston makes the difference from the 1.6 to the 1.8?
 
so if i get the gsr crank, gsr rod, gsr pistons

and is there anyting else i should/ may need?

and reading from the first post, my compression would be 9.8, what does blink mean its not ideal for a all motor, but is it good for a daily driver still ?
 
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It'll probably run ok, but it won't make much power.
 
so it wont stroke it to 1.8l? and i will actually lose power?

i got my ctr piston too though but the compression is 12.74 is that very high or something?
 
silk509 said:
so if i get the gsr crank, gsr rod, gsr pistons

and is there anyting else i should/ may need?

and reading from the first post, my compression would be 9.8, what does blink mean its not ideal for a all motor, but is it good for a daily driver still ?
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what he means is that one of the key point of an all motor engine is high compresion so lower compresion means least power. but yes it will work fine but with the heart of something like a stock d15 LOL
 
This Thread is very good, i am thinking of doing the same with my 1999 B16b, looking at a Spoon stroke kit, you guys keep talking about gsr and itr cranks, are these from different modles of B18c?
 
And if I do go ahead with the stroke kit, is it just the hardware that needs replacing, or will I need to get a new ecu. Also I’m concerned about the fuel management, i.e. will you need to install bigger injectors and fuel pump? What is the difference between a B18c5 top and a B16b top?
 
You won't HAVE to do any other modifications (injectors,ecu, etc.). The rev limit won't be as high with the b18, due to the stroke. Keep that in mind if you do decide to do this. When you say top are you referring to the head?
 
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dixondabut said:
You won't HAVE to do any other modifications (injectors,ecu, etc.). The rev limit won't be as high with the b18, due to the stroke. Keep that in mind if you do decide to do this. When you say top are you referring to the head?
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Sorry, I mean the head - cam gears and cam shafts, valves, valve springs is there a difference - so how will the rev limit be lower with the same ecu, or do you mean I'll have to make sure I don't take it as high as I did with the b16 set up - or will it actually stop reving once it reaches a specific peek, that peek being lower than what is was with a b16 set up?
 
EK9 Type R Owner said:
This Thread is very good, i am thinking of doing the same with my 1999 B16b, looking at a Spoon stroke kit, you guys keep talking about gsr and itr cranks, are these from different modles of B18c?
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only difference is the R crank is balanced. http://www.ek9.org/forum/honda-integra-type-r/12247-integra-type-r-vs-integra-gsr.html some differences between the two engines.

EK9 Type R Owner said:
And if I do go ahead with the stroke kit, is it just the hardware that needs replacing, or will I need to get a new ecu. Also I’m concerned about the fuel management, i.e. will you need to install bigger injectors and fuel pump? What is the difference between a B18c5 top and a B16b top?
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All you need is a P73 ecu(Integra R ECU). no need to upgrade anything else.No differences in the heads as well. except a 3 degree more aggressive intake cam on the b16b which is not noticeable.
 
EK9 Type R Owner said:
Sorry, I mean the head - cam gears and cam shafts, valves, valve springs is there a difference - so how will the rev limit be lower with the same ecu, or do you mean I'll have to make sure I don't take it as high as I did with the b16 set up - or will it actually stop reving once it reaches a specific peek, that peek being lower than what is was with a b16 set up?
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Yes, you don't have to replace the ecu. It isn't required, but is recommended due to the stroke. If you are on a budget the ecu can be put on the back burner. Check the specs, there are other threads with engine dimensions.
 
so would there be an advantage to use forged piston(cr 11.5) over the itr piston? as the cr would be almost the same?

itr crank+rods+itr piston=11.35
itr crank+eagle rods+forged piston=11.5? is it really worth it to get forged piston? i mean there almost $900 piston n rods
 
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I went for the Brian Crower stroker kit. 92 mm bc crank, crower rods and cp (lower comp, turboing it later. So been running around non-turbo for a few months while saving etc..) pistons 81.5 mm. This, with skunk2 inlet manifold and tb, with eCtune, standard exhaust manifold and everything else stock made 199.7 hp and 149 lb ft If i can remember correctly. Will try to dig out the graph. It was much more torquey all through the revs from before and really picked up at 6k rpm. Now I just want moar power in the form of boost. Should be interesting to see turbo + brian crower stroker kit. Will keep you posted. Cheers, Si.
 
i went with a itr crank + itr piston/rod =11.3

i might go with a 2 layer hg so my compression would be 11.5

any advice?
 
the little extra bump in compression is nice.

are you using stock cams?

As others have mentioned, it would be best to have the car tuned via a programmable ecu.
 
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